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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2009-09-29 10:54 pm

And in other matters ...

Just caught up with the week's news (this has been the week of no time) -- are you Filipinos out there all all right? The flooding sounds horrible! Though I am glad to see that the rescue efforts seem to have pulled off some dramatic successes! Stay safe!


On a happier note, HAPPY BIRTHDAY [personal profile] ciel_vert ! May Flights of Franks sing you through the day!

And does anyone know if/where I can find a paper/book/website that posits a well-constructed model for worst-case scenario climate change from several centuries to 1000 years in the future? I know that the sort of thing I am looking for will come with a very long list of caveats, and that's fine, it's research for fiction! But I am looking for something that would be able to tell me what could happen if, say, the sea rose by 100m. Would the Gulf Stream definitely be stuffed? Would that level of water coverage keep the landmasses warm? Would England be balmy or bitter? What would grow where?

Alas! Why is the Star Trek future of my childhood not here yet? I'd be able to run models on the holodeck! (And I know that I am about to have more people comment on my poor grasp of Federation history than sneer at the concept of anthropogenic climate change, which cheers me immensely!)

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
You're a genius! I had been thinking of using prehistoric models to guide my flora decisions, but the Phanerozoic and Greenland articles have started lovely new trails of thought!

As to the tropical rainforests, in the short time I have lived in Sydney, ginger has become vastly easier to grow here, so I'll not rule out the option yet ;-) Is it wrong to hope for giant birds?

Thank you very very much for your well considered and beautifully linked comment!

[identity profile] sirra-scribbles.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You're very welcome. :)

It is never inappropriate to wish for giant birds, and in fact not only can ginger and [mustard] adapt in years, but indeed changes in our [feathered fellow homeotherms] may be realised. (Sorry I can't provide a link to the article itself, but I do have access to that volume should you need or want to read it.)

In addition, since we're talking about historical precedents, Jared Diamond's Collapse may be relevant to your research. Diamond discusses how past and current societies have fared/may fare when faced with economic, societal and natural disasters. Though anthropogenic climate change isn't his focus, the consequences of it are part of the take-home message. (It's also a good read, though a wee bit dated regarding modern societies and how we're doing it wrong.)

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been meaning to read that, I liked his Guns, Germs and Steel very much. I'll try the local uni library for the article, too. Thank you!

I hate to confess, but I have been reading Mommsen on Rome as a guide to how we're doing modern society wrong. Damaging, outdated technology, a surfeit of religion with a lack of ethics, ill considered wars and leaders who are either poor, or surrounded with those more concerned with protecting their own interests than leading. If only our architecture was as pleasant to live in ...