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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2009-08-21 10:53 pm

Clearing up a common confusion

This is a nation with SOCIALISED medicine:


This is a nation with SOCIALIST medicine: 


SOCIALISED =/=
SOCIALIST

and, just to be absolutely clear,
SOCIALIZED =/= SOCIALIST

Please feel free to print this out and distribute it if you find yourself listening to the sort of people that have seen me screaming at the news coverage all week.

I swear, if I was an American and some of the Libertarian loonies leading 'community' concerns came to my door, I would scream: 'COMMUNIST CONCERNS?? AIEEEEE! Fetch me the shotgun, Fido! Time to shoot me some trespassing Reds!'

Admittedly, this raises the questions why an American me would have a dog trained in gun fetching, and speak like Christopher Walken taking the piss, but let's just move on.

[identity profile] raitala.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
If Brammers were an American...the mind boggles.

Speaking of cultural idiosyncrasies, Google Translator translates the Finnish word 'rahvaanomainen' (usually translated as common or vulgar) as 'non-U'. LOL! Not, I think a totally mainstream translation :D
fourth_rose: (Facepalm Harry)

[personal profile] fourth_rose 2009-08-21 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Given that these people use the insults "nazi" and "communist" interchangeably, I doubt explanations will help...

Of course, I say that as a diehard socialist who knows what the term means ;-)

[identity profile] niennas-gift.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't get me started. No seriously. Don't. get. me. started. My country has some of the most ignorant - and dangerous - people of anywhere I can imagine. If this health care legislation doesn't pass, I will be unspeakably pissed off.

Don't you love how we fling around terms we don't understand?

[identity profile] oldenuf2nb.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you so hard right now, you know that, right?

Here's the problem for us American's. White, over middle-aged, undereducated sheep posing as conservatives=/=intelligent. Like Barney Frank said; it's like trying to have a conversation with the dining room table.
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[identity profile] rickey-a.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Quotes the Gospel"

[identity profile] aldehyde.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
brammers, i love you. i know you're aware of this already, but i just had to reiterate it.

i'd love to link this in my next post if that's okay?

[identity profile] agr8fae.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Although this is very useful in general, do you think you could put together a more comprehensive booklet? *smiles winningly*

[identity profile] emansil-08.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, the situation here has become so ludicris and asinine I can't bear to watch, listen, or even read anymore.

we bitch and bitch about how the cost of health care is keeping us from doing anything we enjoy, including eating and when someone wants to do something about it, we start screaming socialism, socialism. Jeez give me a fucking break.

[identity profile] spark-of-chaos.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
God forbid you even say the c-word for fear somebody would convert or something and spread the condition.

[identity profile] ladyjaneva.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess I'm still naive?
But I don't get how people can get the two mixed up.

And even if someone is in favour of socialism or *gasp* communism: we've had communist politicians since forever, and their parties have just as many nutcases as the other ones. One of our biggest party is socialist, they've run the country and didn't do worse than the christian democrats. Different political ideas, but how can one honestly think that those people are automatically evil?

I don't understand it.

My mom believes in God and is a socialist to the core, mixed with a bit of communism. And boy does she have some scary sides to her, but those are not it.

[identity profile] brinian.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 05:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I was going to comment, but all of my fellows above have done such a good job of saying what I would like to say that I'm going to fall back on what they say at the Friends' Meeting in such a situation:

"The Friend speaks my mind"

(thank you fourth_rose, niennas_gift and sarcasticpixie for saving me some typing :-)

[identity profile] feralcheryl.livejournal.com 2009-08-21 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
oh sweety, I feel for you. I have utterly avoided the debate for fear of my head popping. I can't possibly allow myself to think that a nation thinks healthcare for the poor is bad.
Your job, dearest Brammers, doesn't allow you the luxury of head and sand. And your social conscience is a good deal pointier than mine. Poor poppet.
Watch some fire fly, have a cuppa, purl some, plain some.

PS we're coming back to Sinney rool soon now- bring on newtown coffee

[identity profile] jadzialove.livejournal.com 2009-08-22 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
*loves this*

Ignorance seems to be contagious.

Sheep. That's what people are. And I pinpoint the ignorance to the moment the republican party hitched their wagons to likes of Jerry Falwell... I suppose that's another argument, but it is the birthplace of blind, uninformed/misinformed outrage from the "regular" folks.

That and Faux Fox News.

[identity profile] grey-hunter.livejournal.com 2009-08-22 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, Christopher Walken is awsome. And why not SOCIALIZT? If we go American, I mean.

[identity profile] ceares.livejournal.com 2009-08-22 04:22 pm (UTC)(link)
*psst* All of our dogs are trained in gun fetching! I actually cringe and laugh my ass off a the same time(it's either that or cry) when I see clips from the town hall meetings.

[identity profile] pingrid.livejournal.com 2009-08-22 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I despair of people. Socialist/socialised is bad enough, but where does the socialist/nazi/communist confusion come from? Well, it was called the N_S_DAP ... So THAT'S what the Wannsee Conference was all about: a final solution to the healthcare question. How can so many historians have been so wrong? *rolls eyes so hard they risk getting stuck looking into head*
arobynsung: (peace)

[personal profile] arobynsung 2009-08-23 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my goodness, THIS!!
It's sad how many people don't know this!!
I can't believe how this health care debate has been skewed.

[identity profile] kirinin.livejournal.com 2009-08-24 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Funny, I was just reading about that on The Onion. Of course, the Onion mocks all, regardless of political orientation:

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/congress_deadlocked_over_how_to

-K

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