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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2011-07-24 10:37 pm

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I'm having to avoid the news today ... I need a processing day or two. I suppose that Breivik's confession is something ... but ...

I remember back when the Port Arthur Massacre occurred, one of my housemates ran upstairs and said, 'Put the radio on, there's something horrible happening in Tasmania.' We sat around the radio, and later the television, for hours, feeling utterly powerless. It was the same feeling that had come a few months before, when Rabin was assassinated, and would come again years later as planes fell on New York and Washington, when clubs were blown apart in Bali, as trains were ripped open in Madrid, and then again in London.

There is something about the willful evil of human beings that is more horrific than the devastation of nature. Which is ridiculous on one level, since even comparatively minor natural disasters often have death tolls higher than those of acts of mass murder. The Asian Tsunami dwarfs all acts of terrorism and mass murder in the last 50 years. And yet ... And yet the idea that people can choose to act so vilely is not one that most of us can understand.

And tragically, it does seem to be terrorism, even though it was one man, not an organisation. The targeting of Labour party workers and youths, coupled with Breivik's anti-Left and xenophobic rantings makes his political intent clear.

I know it's not at all PC to say this, and I await the defriendings, but what makes the attacks in Norway so utterly awful is that they are not even the sort of terrorism that one can get one's head around a bit. Because some terrorism, I sort of get.

I look at Umkhonto We Sizwe, and I think, yeah, necklacing was well out of order, but given you had no vote, that the media was cut off from reporting conditions for your people and that activists managed to beat themselves up in their cells before falling out of windows – I can sort of understand why you had a bombing campaign.

To me, this sort of terrorism makes some sort of sense. It's territorial terrorism, if you like, and it led to the formation of modern South Africa, of the state of Israel, of the Irish Republic, India and Pakistan, too, I suppose. I cannot support such actions, but to this day, when I see groups that lack political power, media coverage or wealth turning to violence, I can at least see some reasoning behind their actions.

The other sort of terrorism, tanty terrorism as I accidentally called it in a term that has stuck in this house, I will never get. It's the sort of fundamentalist bullshit that refuses to acknowledge anyone's rights or views but one's own. From the lone bastards who murder doctors at abortion clinics, to Marc Lépine, who murdered women to 'fight feminism' Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique, to Osama bin Laden's decades of utter fuckery against the US and the West in general, and now Breivik, too – it's a list of people who sincerely believed that people who disagreed with them had no rights whatsoever, not even to live.

And of all centuries, in all of history, you would think that ours would see with most clarity just how hollow and hideous that sort of thinking is.

[identity profile] rdmasters.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 01:16 pm (UTC)(link)
!defriend

Because you have it right. "Territorial Terrorism", as you call it, asymmetrical warfare (as the US called it until recently), guerrilla warfare, partisan action, or even a bunch of bowmen hiding out in some forest are all degrees of the same thing - depending on who's side you are on. I am sure the Reich would have cheerfully called the French Partisans "Terrorists", if they had thought of it, as, no doubt, the Sheriff of Nott would have.

"Tanty Terrorism", though, is just that. And for that, there can be no sane justification.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
And it's not as though it's hard to spot the difference, I think. Sometimes the territorial type is more universal, and then it's a popular uprising, and sometimes it's more bastardly, rather than being directed at official targets, but it's the action of people with few options.

The idea that a Saudi millionaire or a middle-class Norewegian lacked protest options would be laughable, were their actions not so staggeringly awful.

[identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sure the Reich would have cheerfully called the French Partisans "Terrorists", if they had thought of it

They did! They used the same sort of language about the (small) internal resistance movement in Germany. My wife is named for a family friend who was one of the few members of the German resistance to survive the war.

[identity profile] rdmasters.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
They did?

I learn something new every day!

[identity profile] chickenfeet2003.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually the French collaborationists used "terrorist" to describe the Resistance too. See for example the editorial in Le Phare de Nantes for 21st July 1943.

[identity profile] rdmasters.livejournal.com 2011-07-24 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I am now expecting to see some document from the late 1100s to surface stating that 'The out-laws of the forrestes of Sherwood are to be founde to be agents of terror against the rightfule rule of their Norman masters.'

In seriousness, though, I was, again, unaware of the use of the term that early. Time for me to hit the history books again.