With due respect to ...

[blamebrampton]

... those of you who are mourning him, I am probably going to bite the next person who tells me that Michael Jackson was a revolutionary figure in the fight for equality by African Americans. I hasten to add that this has so far been three in real life and double the number of media foik: my flist has been a bastion of sanity.

Aesthetic irony aside, it belittles genuine revolutionary figures. And I am not even talking about political giants like Dr King; there were many entertainers who walked a far more difficult path earlier and with more grace and charity, such as Ella Fitzgerald, Paul Robeson, Josephine Baker, Sammy Davis Jnr and Nina Simone.

I'm all for people loving the heroes they choose, but I would love a bit of perspective at times like these. And perhaps a little sense of history.

Flistees who are just missing the singing and dancing, I apologise for intruding on your sad day. 

Comments

[droolfangrrl.livejournal.com]

http://stereotypist.livejournal.com/131545.html

[potteresque_ire]

I like his stage presence. He contributed a lot to his art. Race equality ... um, not really.
I think the term "hero" is way overused these days :)

[bloodbelieve.livejournal.com]

Wow, I actually haven't heard anything about that. I'd never even dream of referring to him that way. I'm upset because musically, to me, he was an absolute legend and influenced my life and a lot of my favourite musicians' lives. But -- revolutionary? Seriously? That's so strange.

[knic26.livejournal.com]

Equality for African Americans? Really?

Worked for aid in Africa...yeah.
Sang and danced like no one before...yeah.
Revolutionized the music video with the release of Thriller...yeah.

The only, and I mean ONLY, place where I can see equality is the fact that he was the first African American artist to have videos played on MTV, and that was because of his 'cross-over' success.

I think that media is only regarding him as a 'hero' because everyone between the ages of 20 and 40 really did grow up on his music and are more likely to feel the Elvis or John Lennon-like loss.

[norton-gale.livejournal.com]

If Michael Jackson engaged in revolutionary activity, it must have all been underground, to be revealed in declassified CIA documents years later...

He was a very talented musician, and a true eccentric. I wonder what will happen to his chidren. I suspect we'll hear some interesting revelations when they reach adulthood.

[deannawol.livejournal.com]

How can you be responsible for helping along the plight of African Americans when you turned yourself whiter than white? He was probably a deeply troubled man judging by the severe self-image issues and the clinging to all things childish. Either way, had some good songs but wasn't the best 'black' musician by far either.

[tnumfive.livejournal.com]

Great entertainer? Definitely.

Pioneering activist? Not so much, no.

I was really upset when I heard the news. He did amazing things for the music industry. Today's artists owe a lot to Michael.

[rubyemerald-1.livejournal.com]

I'm just feeling sad for a person who had one hell of a weird life and showed us very obviously that he wasn't coping very well with it. I think he was a remarkable performer who should have said, help me.

[hogwartsvixxxen.livejournal.com]

I'm missing him most for his singing dancing and presence. He did do alot but so did so many others as you pointed out and Thank You for that.
*{hugs}*

[deensey.livejournal.com]

I love you <3

[emansil-08.livejournal.com]

Yep, I agree.

Michael was a great entertainer, but that was all. Like us all he had his weirdness and idiosicracies. I see nothing to idolize him over. I think we should all remember his music, and should then let the man move on in peace.

[empress-jae.livejournal.com]

for a man who did everything to become as physically "white" as possible, um...i'd have to go with a no. he certainly wasn't revolutionary in regards to race equality in the eyes of this black girl. ;)

revolutionary musical and entertaining genius? yes. that's what i'll miss. i grew up with him, so i feel like a tiiiiny part of my childhood has been taken away.

...

i'm sorry, i'm stuck on this, but who in the HELL said that MJ was a revolutionary figure in the fight for equality by black people??

[calanthe-fics.livejournal.com]

Poor old Farah Fawcett; she dies from anal cancer, and her big day gets overshadowed by MJ. Life, it's shit.

[absynthedrinker.livejournal.com]

Not to mention etta james, louis armstrong, and mahaliajackson. The only things he revolutionized were plastic surgery and fleeing prosecution.

[aldehyde.livejournal.com]

huh. really? i haven't seen posts like that [yet] and it's a bit surprising b/c i've never seen him as being revolutionary in terms of racial equality.

i DO think he was revolutionary in the field of pop music and dance though, and i'm mourning his loss for that. he was the first celebrity/musician i ever became a fan of, and i have tons of memories associated with his work from my primary, secondary and even post-secondary days. hell, some of my earliest memories [from when i was 3 or so] are associated with his music :/

[siria.livejournal.com]

I feel a bit shabby repeating what everyone else has already said, but why would anyone call him a revolutionary figure in the fight for equality by African Americans? I think considering the lengths he went to in order to eliminate every visible trace of his racial background from his outer appearance he was SO, so far away from being such a figure!

He was, however, an amazing musician, great performer and a perfectionist when it came to his work. I will absolutely miss him and I'm very sad that he's gone.

[faynia.livejournal.com]

My reaction to this post trends the lines of: LOL WOT?

Revolutionary singer/dancer = yes.

Er...let's not talk about the rest of him shall we? Yes? Yes. *nods*

How are you then? Other than baffled? xD

[marcelmoonstone.livejournal.com]

Thank you for being the one person I met today (so to speak) who is of like mind.

[uminohikari.livejournal.com]

...but he tried to make himself as white as possible! IDGI :|

[pir8fancier.livejournal.com]

I know you will say, "But pir8, this is popular culture, my dear," but I don't think you can have a proper handle on him, not, um, having lived in the U.S. I suppose it's similar to those people who grew up with the Beatles. Sure, they were enornous here, but they inspired a social revolution in Britain that catapulted Britian out of the doldrums still hanging over the sod from WWII. A positive social movement doesn't have it's roots in the ballot box.

Michael Jackson. Okay, I think he was probably a pedofile, or at least a weirdophile. I know people who are in the position to know (like in law enforcement) who say that his behavior with children was at the very least improper. But that's not what we're talking about here. We are talking about his effect on American culture. He was more than an act. And this is from someone who thought he could sing and dance, but I did not adore him and I never bought one of his albums.

Having said that, he was THE musician who set the stage for black artists becoming crossover artists. Becoming, not black artists appealing to whites, but just plain, you know, artists. He actually symbolized for the music industry, what I think I certainly wish were the case in terms of gay rights. That they are just fucking rights and aren't labeled "gay" rights. That people who want to get married should just get married and their gender is immaterial. I wish.

Michael Jackson did it for the music industry, even though he wasn't an activist or a Paul Robeson or a Rosa Parks. He was a black kid who could sing and dance and he parlayed that into being an artist who appealed to audiences across the board. Without Michael Jackson, I think that rap would have remained a ghetto phenomenon. You wouldn't have had artists like Kayne West, Mariah Carey or Jennifer Hudson or a myriad of other singers who are now just singers.

I think you could honestly say that he broke down more barriers in terms of racial stereotypes (despite the fact he was extremely strange) in the music business than anyone else. Up until MTV, the music industry was still balkanized into it's little corners. Michael blew that all up. He OWNED MTV, and in the process he said quite distinctly, "I'm a singer." Not "I'm a black singer." And there is, obviously, a huge distinction.

The fact that he was clearly humiliated by his own racial identity is immaterial. His ability to cross that racial divide was something that no other artist had succesfullly managed. MTV had a lot to do with it, and, also, he was pretty talented.

I think that art can be pretty powerful. I'm not advocating nominating him for a Nobel Peace Prize posthumously, but I am saying that from outside the U.S., it is possible not to understanding the pivotal role he played in the music industry in the U.S. No, he wasn't an activist. He was just a singer. But that doesn't mean that what he accomplished wasn't powerful.

So now you have lots of middle and uppermiddle class white kids listening to rap (I have one!) and while I personally abhor rap and many of the themes that define rap anger me, I also understand that it's--for the most part--black artists reaching out and speaking to listeners (a lot of them white) about their struggles, their anger, and their powerlessness. And I don't think that that would have been possible without Michael Jackson.

[shadowclub.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad someone else feels the same way as me! I know he was an excellent singer and dancer in his day... but I feel like all the tributes are being WAY overdone.

♥

[grey-hunter.livejournal.com]

I have no real opinion about the matter. But it's still a bit weird, reading about people calling him that and then remembering that I didn't even know he was (originally) black until I was twenty-something. sorry for the PinC-ness but 'African American' in this case just doesn't cover the issue.