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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2009-11-19 12:14 am

In which we stretch an analogy a little ...

I was talking with a lovely young person earlier today about her idea for an hp_religion fest. Despite the fact that I am a godless heathen, I find religion endlessly fascinating and think that it works very well as a lens through which to view the Potterverse (obviously, since the author was consciously constructing a Christian allegory in parts).

Thinking about this, I had an epiphany of sorts, which relates strongly to the current brouhaha* on mpreg among my fandom friends.

My atheism does not affect the religiosity of some of my friends. Their beliefs do not affect my atheism. I would consider it the height of rudeness to tell them they cannot believe in their sundry gods, and they, after a cursory effort to convert me in a few cases, do not tell me that I must believe in one of their religions.

Some of them do believe that I am going to hell. Some of them believe that I am missing some basic truth of the universe. I believe that they believe in something a bit basically odd. Every now and then I have one of those conversations that goes: 'But how can you believe there's nothing?' 'How can you believe in something that is obviously an anthropological artefact?' 'No seriously, nothing? How?!'

However, in both cases, it doesn't matter. My lack of belief, my friends' beliefs, they are things that are important to US, not things that we need each other to adopt. The things that unite us, that bind us, are far deeper and more important.

Similarly, I think that there are lots of things in fandom that we take very very personally, but they are important to us as individuals, and when we try to make the personal public, it's just a recipe for disaster.

One of my friends loves mpreg because it soothes her soul, one of them loves it because it allows her to investigate whole new ideas in stories. I think it's fairly daft because I think stories about babies and pregnancy are essentially daft, just as I don't like avocado and am the least romantic person in the world. It doesn't matter! I leave more avocado for [livejournal.com profile] pushdragon ! My mpreg atheism does not weaken anyone's mpreg faith! It's exactly the same as the way that gay marriage doesn't weaken straight marriages.

Anyway, [profile] heathen_archive , come back! Maggie and Liz, chins up! And everyone else, like what you like, even if it's not me ;-)


* It's certainly more than a kerfuffle, but not yet a schism, and too personal to some to be considered wank.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Heatwave here. Yay. *Is sarcastic*

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, peaceful, because the slapping spoon will have quelled all who are crankypantses!!

More seriously, the mutual respect for preferences is the key, and I think that needs to allow for a spot of grump, too. People who overtly hate political stories are fine by me, even though I love politics!

Fingers crossed she will be back soon!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Rubbing along is, indeed, the key! More of it, I say.

And what a lovely boy! Clearly very well brought up.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope it works out, too! And yes, I can see the fun of mpreg ideas, some of the people who address them take the most fascinating angles!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The caring too much is exactly the problem. A bit more shrugging is in order, I think!

You could write a short fic on the reason there are so many godfathers. Just suggesting ...

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Finish! FINISH! And use contraception for a little longer, though, if you have a good support network in place and a career plan that will deal with it, having babies early seems quite reasonable as your body is better suited to it.

I'm not surprised you cannot look at that bake, it sounds scary!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
That IS a good thing! But yeah, if heathen_archive stays deleted, that would be less than cool.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I have offered my services as the official slapping spoon wielder if people complain about the fest, should it happen. Sane people will keep complaints under close flock when faced with the threat of me lecturing them ;-)

And yes, the potential for good fic makes the rest of it entirely worth it!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:48 pm (UTC)(link)
AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh how I love living in the 21st century! Thank you!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
You're ALWAYS welcome to be silly here! I am thinking of finding a woodcut of a spoon and photoshopping it in with my little doggie.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
DAMN STRAIGHT!

Though I would also be off after the vets who allegedly desexed the little girl cats. Monster, however, would be thrilled. She tried to befriend a marsupial rat, thinking it might be a kitten. Poor, terrified ratty!

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. <3

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you like the idea (since it's me who'll be hosting it), and I hope you do participate! :)

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, I think that's pretty much my reaction to a hp_religion fest, and I'm the one whose idea it is... :/

Wish me luck, huh?

<3

[identity profile] emerald-dragon8.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, don't worry, I don't plan on having children until I'm at least finished uni. I just like looking at/reading about them! :)

It was. *shudders*

[identity profile] timeasmymeasure.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Good luck!!
It's a great idea and the saner parts of fandom will support you =D

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much for your support! I love your icon, by the way.

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
While I'm here, would you mind if I friend you?

And also, I'm looking at creating the community (never done this before!) - would you like me to add you to it as a mod when it's set up, so that you have full slapping spoon ability? That way if I'm not around and things get out of hand you can use mod-powers as well as the spoon.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
*Realises meant to friend you a few days ago*
*Realises is quite tardy ...*

Sure! I'll be away for most of December, but back in the New Year, and will happily spoon away for you. I might pre-organise a few arguments ...

[identity profile] angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It's definitely not going to open until the New Year, at least mostly because it's scary and I have a lot of planning to do!

It should be fun, though. And I'm a lot more comfortable knowing that you'll be there to help keep the potential wank under control. :)

What a shocking lie.

[identity profile] wemyss.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You're far too young to have a sprog, let alone one of eight winters.

You flatterer...

[identity profile] goddessriss.livejournal.com 2009-11-19 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I was a child bride. *fibs brazenly*

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