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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2013-07-14 12:41 pm

Dear American friends

What the fucking fuck?

I mean, I know that you are all also saying what the fucking fuck, because we're friends and all, but, fuck …

I am rarely reduced to spluttering profanity, but when you have one state banning abortion one day and another legalising murder the next …

Seriously, if any of you like marsupials, I do recommend Sydney or Melbourne. It's not perfect here, but it's much less grim if you're not a wealthy white man.

You're all going to stay and try to fix things, aren't you? Because you've got that American capability and boundless hope. In which case, GOOD LUCK! I believe in Americans like YOU! And those other fuckers can fuck right off.

[identity profile] celestlyn.livejournal.com 2013-07-14 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
In truth, I believe much like you in regard to abortion. I'm not happy about the whole concept, but it doesn't have the emotional impact for me that it does for so many others. In my mind, it isn't really my decision. I'll leave it to the involved parties to decide. I think there far more pressing issues affecting our lives today.

Number one on the list for me is some kind of universal healthcare. As it now stands, healthcare is paid for by one's employer. So if you are not employed you are out of luck, unless you qualify to be covered on someone else's policy. If you are a woman with little children or have a disability you can get coverage by the state. Otherwise you are not eligible. If you are unemployed you have no help at all. The state will not cover you unless you meet certain criteria, which is getting harder and harder to meet. For example, if one loses their job and cannot find another one soon he is left without healthcare until such time as he finds work. Some work does not provide healthcare, so if he manages to find a part time job he is still unable to get medical care. The whole system is effed up.

Basically, the conservatives believe that if the government funds everything it will bankrupt the country. They want the rich and wealthy to remain rich and wealthy gained off the backs of the poor. There used to be three classes of people, the wealthy, the working class and the poor. The working class gets smaller every year and the poor gets larger. This country should be able to provide basic human rights to their citizens.

[identity profile] quatrefoil.livejournal.com 2013-07-14 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
My personal view on abortion is that human life begins at conception and that abortion is the taking of a human life. BUT, I don't believe I have the right to make that decision for any other woman and nor do I believe that anyone else has the right to make that decision for me. For that reason, I support women's right to choose, and I'll support it energetically in the political arena. People who are serious about reducing the numbers of abortions should look at providing real alternatives to women with unwanted pregnancies - alternatives that don't involve poverty and discrimination. And if conservatives are all about the right to life (as opposed, say, to wanting to control women's bodies), they'd all be pacifists, wouldn't they?

[identity profile] celestlyn.livejournal.com 2013-07-15 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I would have to agree with everything you say.