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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2009-01-23 09:13 pm

Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh, again, with added rambling.

Guess what the temperature is? Yeah, add a bit.

Am still woefully behind on comments because I would like to reply sensibly. The cool change is slated for Sunday, expect replies, and a collation of the penis post results! Part two of Single Wizard's is with my brilliant beta, expect derangement.

I nearly leapt from my desk to strangle someone this afternoon when my idiot co-worker (there is always one)  declared that although it was hot here, the record lows in the US showed that global warming was a myth. Instead, I held myself back and politely asked him why the top 10 hottest years on record had all occurred in the last 11 years.

'Yeah, but that's just in Australia.'

'No,' I replied. 'That's globally. Remember that many countries have experienced record highs and record lows in the same years over the last decades.'

'Well, I still think it's exaggerated.'

I sighed. 'Would you mind explaining where all the glaciers are hiding, then? Because I'd quite like them back.'

Talking with most journalists about science reminds me why I believe that journalists should have to pass a certified test before they are allowed to talk about science. There was the one a few years back who talked about the need to include his paragraphs on creationism in a story on evolutionary biology 'for balance'. I argued that it was a science story, and therefore religion was out of place. I argued that he hadn't included quotes from satisfied drug users in his recent story about the link between marijuana use and schizophrenia. I was ignored. The editor in chief said: 'What are you? American? Fuck that.' There was applause. (If you are even now saying But Creationism is real! go to footnote 1.)

Many journos also fail the logic test. It's not always their fault, schools are rubbish these days and the kids are taught that Wikipedia is a resource. (Not the kids I train, of course. They are taught that the very W word will make me froth with rage unless it is provided in the context of 'And then I went to find verification for all the assertions.')

Today a lovely cookery writer, who had been lead astray by Wiki and then gone a little further astray herself, wrote that powdered cocoa comes from chocolate liquor and that its separation was the first step in the chocolate-making process.

'I'm just going to tidy that up because there are a few factual errors there,' I muttered kindly.

'No, that's right. I checked it.'

'But chocolate contains cocoa. If you remove it to make cocoa powder, you end up with cocoa and cocoa butter, not chocolate. It's a separate process, cocoa butter is often added to other chocolate liquor to make some chocolates, and sometimes cocoa is used to make milk chocolate, but you're talking about the process to make cocoa powder, and you can't go from that to making chocolate as your next step.'

'But it was on the internet!'

'So is dwarf porn, it's still not right.'

I sometimes worry that the internet has taught people not to think. 'I checked the footnotes, the article they linked to said the same thing.' is the most common defence I receive from writers and subs who have used Wikipedia as a reference. They do not distinguish between a publicity article from the British potato marketing board and a scholarly article from a leading agricultural researcher that has passed a stringent peer review.

When I was a young girl, I remember crying at the realisation that I would die without learning everything I could. Apparently, some people missed that moment. I should be grateful, it means I can charge a high hourly rate and work with fun people aside from the one idiot. But some days I despair and consider going back to books.

In unrelated but slightly amusing news, I was walking home today thinking that I really must call my mother. Some 10 metres away a  car hooted and I heard my name called(2). It was her, and we had a quick catch up. Prior to this, I have not seen her in a year (this is quite normal, we like each other but lead separate, busy lives). I walked the rest of the way home thinking 'I really must buy a winning lottery ticket and secure a record-breaking book deal.' One never knows ...



1. Creationism is not science. However, as a friend of mine who is a devout Christian and a geologist says: 'The god that I believe in is certainly capable of setting in motion a universe that could evolve following the laws that are suggested by the evidence before us. I can cope with metaphors that are more complex than the ones Jews in the desert thousands of years ago used.'

My heathen little heart says that if your faith is threatened by good science, then it's your faith, not the science, that is the problem and you ought to be spending more time worrying about what you are learning in church and less time worrying about what the kids are learning at school.

2. 'How did you know it was me?' I asked, given that I was on the other side of the road with my back to her.

'Who else has hair that long and a red parasol?' she replied.

'Five year olds!'

'You're slightly taller.'

We're clearly related ;-)
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[personal profile] drgaellon 2009-01-23 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
The Italians say, "Il traduttore e traditore" - "The translator is a traitor."

People are unutterably shocked when I point out that America's favorite translation of the Bible (still the KJV), at least in the Hebrew sections, is a FIFTH ORDER translation. (Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek to Latin to French to English - and archaic English, at that.) It's nothing short of blasphemy when I point out that Paul INVENTED the Immaculate Conception, a century after Jesus was born, to explain a MISTRANSLATION.
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[personal profile] drgaellon 2009-01-23 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
One word: FRACTALS!
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O/T

[identity profile] lilian-cho.livejournal.com 2009-01-23 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that Uruhara's hat on the dragon's head?

Has it always been on your icon (and I fail to notice it OhTheShameHowShallILiveWithMyselfNow) or is it a recent addition?
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[identity profile] lilian-cho.livejournal.com 2009-01-23 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
If only I'm not so inordinately lazy I would totally metaquote this:

'But it was on the internet!'

'So is dwarf porn, it's still not right.'

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Re: O/T

[identity profile] incapricious.livejournal.com 2009-01-23 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it is! :D

I think I added it... um... in October, maybe? It hasn't always been there. It might have been September.

[identity profile] adevyish.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
As a fan of math history, I was highly disappointed when I bought a book lately and discovered it was well-researched fiction rather than a well-researched historical account written by a mathematician. Woe.

[identity profile] adevyish.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
One day, someone will claim the Flying Spaghetti Monster exists because it has a lovely website, and a reputable newspaper will carry a special about the millions of FSM believers around the world.

I'm waiting for it.
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Re: O/T

[identity profile] lilian-cho.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Which means I only noticed it after I've seen it half a dozen times before X-D

Ha. I feel less useless now =D
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-01-24 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Duderino?
*dies* :D

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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-01-24 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, bad writing in science journals is an art form! How to be concrete but abstract, how to write English ... only not. And Pie's Nobel prize worthy research, "On the Quantitative Analysis of the Exothermic Mating Behaviour between Harry Potter and Draco Malfoy" will be published some day.*Nods*

We love Ikea! Serious, we have only 1 Ikea store an hour drive away from us, and most of us do not have a car. When that store opened, our university had to arrange school bus rides to take all the students itching to go there... :D

No, we write porn while not washing dishes. Occasionally the word "God" does come into play, but the context is somewhat different ;)
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[personal profile] potteresque_ire 2009-01-24 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's really difficult to truly believe that our world happens by chance events, isn't it? How many lottery wins does it take to build every flower, every cloud and the deep blue sky? Evolution is a hypothesis, a description of a process; it doesn't assume anything about how the course of events began, and who set its course.

Nothing in science is ever a truth; it's not even about proving a hypothesis; rather, science is about disproving it. A law or theory is regarded as valid only when there is absolutely nothing that negates its principes. One counterexample can and is sufficient to destroy an age-old belief; this has happened many times in history and such events are welcomed in the scientific community.

Faith - I am against the notion that terms scientists as faithless. It just manifests itself in a different form, in that scientists take the current set of theories and assume them as true until proven otherwise - this is required for progress because they cannot spend eternity trying to find the one example that would break down the current beliefs; that is very different from saying that scientists hold what they have assumed as absolute truths and would burn non-believers on a stake. :) This is where I think some literal religionists have misunderstood about scientists - we are not against them in anyway, not until they try to make our lives difficult :)

Science will thus never prove that there is a God or otherwise; it's not in the spirit of the field to do so. It can, at best, hypothesize that there are other lifeforms and they may have sufficient power to create our world, and thus seen by our ancestors as omnipotent. If the study is part of a search for God, then it will inadvertently get stumped the part where they have test whether such lifeforms are 100% good - it will be quite difficult to set up a control experiment with that one ;)

[identity profile] jadzialove.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
'But it was on the internet!'

'So is dwarf porn, it's still not right.'


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Awesome.

I'd comment on the global warming and the creationism BS, but I'd likely become ranty and I just don't have the energy for it.
Edited 2009-01-24 03:31 (UTC)

[identity profile] grey-hunter.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Reminds me of that scene from Erik the Viking when the island was sinking with great loud gurgling noises and the people were sitting on top of their houses and were chanting: "We're not sinking!" (Or something. I never saw it with the original voices.)

Oh, good to know you're slightly taller than a five-year-old. XD

Hm. I also use wikipedia as a source. Then again, I'm not writing anything for official publishing and I like to think that I have enough brains to tell that if I read something like the above, I can tell that it's rubbish.

Btw, there was a sci-fi story I read when I was younger in which scientists re-created the big bang - coded the whole universe in one elementary particle (or smaller?) and sent it back in time, and then there was some renegade scientist who disagreed with the original purist concepts and tinkered with it to create sex as the method of reproduction. *snickers* Wish I remembered the title.

[identity profile] ant-queen.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, wikipedia, scourge of academics everywhere. I actually did use wikipedia once for an assignment for my Masters, but it was to demonstrate the difference between "pop" research propagated by wikipedia versus peer reviewed research.

BTW: Mr B is going to send you a good "global warming for dummies" site that may help inform your idiot co-worker.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that's acceptable, and I can allow for people who use it as a starting point, and to be fair, it can be fastest with the updates for popular culture figures, but on the whole, I still want to shake Jimmy Wales.

I started to read it, but global warming has melted my brain too much, will try again tomorrow after the house has cooled down!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, yes, I suppose that Wikipedia is a good way of keeping OAPs off the streets, and to be fair, it is great at pop culture for the most part. Just not everything else, unless a particular page is lucky enough to have someone really good regularly working on it.

And yes, I am so sorry about your weather. I am wishing I hadn't left Italy, though there were dire floods just after I was there, but not near any of my hotels ;-)

The dwarf porn comment, alas, came from harsh experience. Never dispute your friends' assertions that there is everything you can think of somewhere on the internet.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I look askance at producers who treat chocolate as a mere commodity instead of one subject to 'vintages' like fine wine. That's what's wrong with the world in a nutshell! ;-)

Bless your teachers!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:35 pm (UTC)(link)
It was my own fault. One of my friends said 'You can find everything on the internet.'

'No you can't,' I replied

'Can too.'

'Dwarf porn?'

*types* 'Ha! Yes! Have a look!'

'AAAARGH! MY EYES!'

I have horrible friends.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_inbetween_/ 2009-01-24 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I did read this three times (no chore) but am still not clear what that lady thought? I just hope liquor in this case doesn't mean something like Baileys. And that the editor and the applause were against that journalist.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, no that's chocolate liqueur. Chocolate liquor is roasted, hulled and ground cacao beans, which are usually ground for a long time then mixed with cocoa butter, sugar and sometimes flavourings to make chocolate. So if she had just said that the liquour was the first step, she'd have been quite right. But instead it was that the removal of the cocoa was the first step, which is illogical, since all proper chocolate contains cocoa.

One of those simple errors that writers pop in because they are focussed elsewhere, but which their internal logic-meters should point out on the read-through ;-) (She is a lovely person and does great food! But she was too good an example to miss.)

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
A few years ago, Australians managed to have enough people fill in Jedi as their religion on the census form that the Bureau of Statistics should, by their rules, have added it as a choice on their next form. The declined, saying it was clearly a joke. So rude!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee! ranty is FTW in these parts ;-)

I am going to C&P from a reply above to share the full horror of the dwarf porn story, and why I prefer your company to that of some of my RL friends ...

One of my friends said 'You can find everything on the internet.'

'No you can't,' I replied

'Can too.'

'Dwarf porn?'

*types* 'Ha! Yes! Have a look!'

'AAAARGH! MY EYES!'

I have horrible friends.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
SLIGHTLY ;-) Though by the time the little buggers are 10 it's usually looking grim.

Hee, yes, there is a certain Ericness about it all. Hopefully the singing will be better as the waters rise. And I think it's kosher to use Wiki for personal interest, but, like you, to be aware of the likelihood of error. Let me know if you remember the name of that story!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that not only is this plausible, it's genius! Especially the scale of bang!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2009-01-24 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Nearly as pretty as your icon!

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