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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2011-01-08 04:37 pm

A case in point ...

So, there we were, having a chat on a friend's LJ about the differences between the US and the UK for purposes of a self-Britpicking list, with participants from both sides of the pond and beyond and frequent diversions into baiting and comedy from all sides, and apparently it has become a source of Flocked Drama.

Consider the argument very carefully: At least one American is very upset that British people prefer to be depicted in accurate ways.

And if you can't see why that's a bit dodgy, replace the word British with any other nationality.

I don't want to overstate the case, because really, it doesn't culturally oppress us the way that some other cultures have been oppressed by this sort of thing, since we don't deeply care and we had an Empire first. And while the original source of the complaint is a preference, it's certainly not a sine qua non, and we read heaps of stuff that gets us wrong, and some of it is good and some is crap, and really, at the end of the day we still pronounce and spell aluminium in ways that are scientifically logical, which in itself is enough. But, honestly ...

Interestingly, one of my points of difference was a tendency to soap-opera-like over-reactions in fiction. Clearly I drew the line too narrowly.

AND I left off the fact that it the entire United States has been the subject of mass-brainwashing to accept caffeinated flavoured beverages as coffee. Though I see Starbucks has dropped the word from their logo, truth in advertising at last!

[identity profile] furiosity.livejournal.com 2011-01-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I remember the icing vs frosting kerfuffle. That was pretty funny -- at least to me; I didn't think it got particularly ugly, but yeah, it was stupid.

I don't follow that comm for the members' sparkling personalities, though, but for the information I can obtain from the posts and comments. Five contradictory replies based on regional differences is also information, namely that there is no One Right British Way to a thing (and that's certainly true about a lot of things, not just in the UK). If a thing is true in the north (but is true in the south) and my fic is set in the south, well, I won't use the north person's advice. It doesn't make it incorrect advice, just useless for my purposes. :)

[identity profile] jadzialove.livejournal.com 2011-01-08 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. Well possibly my memory of it being ugly was influenced by my general opinion about what it turned into, and that it happened at all.

I think research is a fine thing. I've just personally found hp_britglish mostly unhelpful and generally irksome and I wouldn't want it to be an author's only resource, but yes if nothing else, at least go there to check things out if you're uncertain.