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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2011-01-08 04:37 pm

A case in point ...

So, there we were, having a chat on a friend's LJ about the differences between the US and the UK for purposes of a self-Britpicking list, with participants from both sides of the pond and beyond and frequent diversions into baiting and comedy from all sides, and apparently it has become a source of Flocked Drama.

Consider the argument very carefully: At least one American is very upset that British people prefer to be depicted in accurate ways.

And if you can't see why that's a bit dodgy, replace the word British with any other nationality.

I don't want to overstate the case, because really, it doesn't culturally oppress us the way that some other cultures have been oppressed by this sort of thing, since we don't deeply care and we had an Empire first. And while the original source of the complaint is a preference, it's certainly not a sine qua non, and we read heaps of stuff that gets us wrong, and some of it is good and some is crap, and really, at the end of the day we still pronounce and spell aluminium in ways that are scientifically logical, which in itself is enough. But, honestly ...

Interestingly, one of my points of difference was a tendency to soap-opera-like over-reactions in fiction. Clearly I drew the line too narrowly.

AND I left off the fact that it the entire United States has been the subject of mass-brainwashing to accept caffeinated flavoured beverages as coffee. Though I see Starbucks has dropped the word from their logo, truth in advertising at last!

[identity profile] shiv5468.livejournal.com 2011-01-09 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well I would consider the fact that politics in Europe are significantly to the left of US politics to be an asset of culture. Our relationship to the state is different. Our attitude to the death penalty. Carrying guns. And that says as much about who we are as people as what we eat.

There is significant variation in the UK and France in what we eat as compared to each other and within our countries but there is still a national culture. The English do talk about the weather a lot. The French do strike a lot.

And the Americans writing the virginity fics may be young and stupid but if young and stupid brits don't write it then it's still an American thing. It doesn't mean all Americans are like that but it does mean some or a lot are, depending. Not all Americans carry guns and some brits do but it's still true that Americans overall have a gun culture and we don't because we don't have discussions about the right to bear arms. It's not important to us as a whole and we don't have political discussions about it.

However, I do now know that some brits wear pants beneath their pajamas. Still an odd thing to do but it's not part of a cultural divide.