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* On the London Riots
Courtesy of #stephenfry, Peter Oborne's brilliant Telegraph Blog, entitled The moral decay of our society is as bad at the top as the bottom. To quote:
But there was also something very phony and hypocritical about all the shock and outrage expressed in parliament. MPs spoke about the week’s dreadful events as if they were nothing to do with them.
I cannot accept that this is the case. Indeed, I believe that the criminality in our streets cannot be dissociated from the moral disintegration in the highest ranks of modern British society. The last two decades have seen a terrifying decline in standards among the British governing elite. It has become acceptable for our politicians to lie and to cheat. An almost universal culture of selfishness and greed has grown up.
I am old enough to remember when people like Peter Oborne were what one meant by 'Conservative' rather than today's venal attack dogs who reduce everything to fallacious notions of Left and Right. I very much miss those days.![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
The type of goods being looted seems peculiarly relevant: if they were going for bare necessities, I think one might incline towards sympathy. I could be wrong, but I don't get the impression that we're looking at people who are hungry. If they were going for more outlandish luxury, hitting Tiffany's and Gucci, they might seem more political, and thereby more respectable. Their achilles heel was in going for things they demonstrably want ...
Late on Monday night, news went round Twitter that Turkish shopkeepers on Stoke Newington Road in Dalston were fighting off the marauders with baseball bats, and someone tweeted: "Bloody immigrants. Coming over here, defending our boroughs & communities." And it struck me that it hadn't occurred to me to walk on to my high street and see what was going on, let alone defend anything. I was watching events on a live feed, switching between Sky and the BBC, thinking how interesting it was, even though it was audible from my front door and at one point, when I couldn't tell whether the helicopter noise was coming from the telly or from real life, it was because it was both.
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And if you're an Inception person, I had a great time beta-ing her Arthur/Eames story Learning to Lose (the sequel to Merely Players) though hardly anyone seems to have read it, which suggests to me that either people are silly, or that all the Inception lot have finally seen the error of their ways and come back to HP (you're all just waiting for Merlin S4, aren't you?)
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Right, more fluids, more rest, I think. Spot of ukulele. I wish I had a voice, I've finally got to a point where Little Lion Man is really coming together.
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Off to bed with you and make sure you take care of yourself over the weekend. 'Viral or bacterial' indeed!
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Aww, thanks a lot for that flattering review. Lol, so you prefer my beasts to my people, ahahaha - I'll remember that. I suppose I should stop drawing HP characters and specialise in animal drawing. ;DDD
Hope you'll get better soon - you do seem to have a knack for colds. Take care, drink enough warm fluids, get somebody to cook you a nice chicken soup, and go to bed!
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Yes, yes, YES. Say what you want about Thatcher, she had a moral core.
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But then online debates always boil down to "many people, currently commenting , don't seem to believe that It is possible to both utterly condemn and to think about causation at the same time." - "now comes the game of blame"
Open questions:
was the photo of the completely naked older woman in all papers? Must hurt her more than the looters by that - papers getting it off the internet makes it no better - and why the hell didn't that cop at least give her a jacket. I cannot bear to click the Google results, the snippets about there having been many upset me enough.
I also can't figure out if this is an ironic/sarcastic move or meant seriously: "Iran calls on UN to intervene over 'violent suppression' of the opposition" and "conservative websites sympathetic to the Islamic regime called on the Iranian government to offer refuge in its embassy in London to "UK protesters in need of protection".
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Perhaps one of my top 10 most hated phrases of all time. Which is why I rarely ever have a medical certificate with my sick leave, because I'm too bloody sick to get out of bed, wait in a crowded room with forty other sick people for 2 hours in order to pay $50 a hear that statement and get a piece of paper stating same.
I will admit though, this has had unintended consequences of a vaguely viral or bacterial something evolving to rampant tonsilities, bronchitis and laryngitis about 50% of the time. I just wish I had a doctor in my immediate family or social circle I could exploit, then I'd be sorted.
Feel better soon. Lot's of fluids, lozenges and ibuprofen, right?
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Interesting take on the curren theories.
I liked Oborne's piece, though I don't think it's entirely true. There is a difference between fiddling your expenses and ooh kicking someone's head in. About five years.
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But give you a serious answer anyway.
The MPs got up to 21 months, in line with sentencing guidelines. If they'd hit someone, assault, would be about the same if it was premeditated depending on the harm caused.
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I did remember having read statistics that showed crimes against property were punished harder than bodily harm (IIRC about the UK, but not if it was the same in all countries). White collar crimes vs. "real" ones, government wrongs vs. thieves.
Sometimes irony and seriousness look alike, as I wondered (seriously) about Iran; "5 years" worked both ways; I had started out ironically to end up in seriousness.
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Ah, you were being serious. I think that the most serious crimes, according to sentence lenght, are crimes against public order - riot, perjury, terrorism, conspiracy to pervert the course of justice - things that undermine the state.
Otherwise it varies. Burglary is probably on a par with rape, for instance, but stealing from your employer gets stiffer sentences than getting into a fight in the street. And murder does get you life, always. You don't get life for theft.
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did I?:)Well,
was I?I think I was and thanks for the explanation. Like back in EMFoster's days, crimes against the state as worse than against individuals. I'm in two minds about that being the most serious crime.I'm in one angry mind about rape being equal to burglary; that's what I'd read. Property and money. Before I start about masters and servants, I'll leave you and B*s blog in peace.
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hope you are feeling well, soon!
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