Finally saw Inception
Jan. 2nd, 2011 11:19 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Possibly the last person in the Western world to see this film ... But on a sweltering summer day, it was just the sort of thing that Mr B and I wanted to veg out in front of.
And ... I have a thought ...
That the whole thing is in Cobb's head and they're just all parts of his own mind. Whether or not there is any such thing as Extraction or Inception is open to debate -- he could have lost his wife in any manner. I do believe that he lost her, his guilt is the driving force for everything that follows, but I think that is the only real fact we can be certain of.
The team all function as facets of a personality -- competence, carefulness, charm, compassion ... And the Arthur - Eames dynamic (which I can see leading to A/E all you A/E folk) even has a level of internal irony that you would hope for in a proper grown-up (and which Cobb in the film rather lacks -- because he's not all of himself). That's why Ariadne is needed, because she is the younger, better Cobb, who remembers his life back when he had joy in it.
Does this make sense to anyone else? Or has the heat wholly melted my brain?
To finish the biggest film day in ages, we watched Strictly Ballroom, which may not be as hilarious to people who have never lived in Australia as it is to those of us who have (OH SO VERY!) and, observing the level of spray tan, I was moved to say to Mr B: 'How can he keep his face so straight when his whole body is so orange?'
Mr B looked at me and said: 'Because he's Bill Hunter, and right about now, he'd fancy a beer.'
(Yeah, you do need a high Oz-familiarity for that to be funny, too. But if you have it, it's a corker ;-))
And ... I have a thought ...
That the whole thing is in Cobb's head and they're just all parts of his own mind. Whether or not there is any such thing as Extraction or Inception is open to debate -- he could have lost his wife in any manner. I do believe that he lost her, his guilt is the driving force for everything that follows, but I think that is the only real fact we can be certain of.
The team all function as facets of a personality -- competence, carefulness, charm, compassion ... And the Arthur - Eames dynamic (which I can see leading to A/E all you A/E folk) even has a level of internal irony that you would hope for in a proper grown-up (and which Cobb in the film rather lacks -- because he's not all of himself). That's why Ariadne is needed, because she is the younger, better Cobb, who remembers his life back when he had joy in it.
Does this make sense to anyone else? Or has the heat wholly melted my brain?
To finish the biggest film day in ages, we watched Strictly Ballroom, which may not be as hilarious to people who have never lived in Australia as it is to those of us who have (OH SO VERY!) and, observing the level of spray tan, I was moved to say to Mr B: 'How can he keep his face so straight when his whole body is so orange?'
Mr B looked at me and said: 'Because he's Bill Hunter, and right about now, he'd fancy a beer.'
(Yeah, you do need a high Oz-familiarity for that to be funny, too. But if you have it, it's a corker ;-))
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Date: 2011-01-02 12:42 pm (UTC)I feel an overwhelming urge to put Strictly Ballroom on, now. DAMN YOU!
*rummages in DVD cupboard*
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Date: 2011-01-02 01:33 pm (UTC)Me - "Oh I heard that's really good, everyone says so."
The Chauffeur* - "oh yeah? Who told you that?"
Me - "My LJ friends list"
I believe my LJ friends list is all knowing you see.
As for Strictly Ballroom, I have not seen that for yonks but I am guessing, Bill Hunter, is the guy from the VB commercials. Am I right?
* Name changed to protect the innocent.
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Date: 2011-01-02 01:54 pm (UTC)By the end of the film I felt that we were watching Cobb on a solo dream hooked to the machine, as the men in the Opium-like dream den had been -- but I also believed that it was possible the whole dream science was a part of his subconscious, too ...
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Date: 2011-01-02 01:48 pm (UTC)It has dated, but it is still enjoyable -- I think because the family ultimately all do care for each other and have just succumbed to external forces for their problems. By the end, those problems have been defeated, and the only people who suffer are Very Bad (and orange).
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Date: 2011-01-02 02:35 pm (UTC)So your theory helps with that.
SB is far, far better!
*uses dancing!icon*
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Date: 2011-01-02 02:41 pm (UTC)I think I will have to watch it a second time to note down all the pieces of evidence that I thought I saw to see if it stands up, but I feel reasonably confident that it's at least a reasonable reading.
And YAY dancing! (Did I tell you I saw, and loved, Wild Target? TEARS of laughter ...)
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Date: 2011-01-02 02:45 pm (UTC)I actually thought it was a bit unsubtle, because to me Ariadne was quite clearly both Cobb's alter ego and a manifestation of a "magical helper" to lead him out of the labyrinth of his own mind, an obvious depiction of "help yourself, self". Because come on, Ariadne. She was such a magic thread to hold on to, it was hard to miss.
So yeah, I agree. It's all in Cobb's brain. They are the brain. And it's an addled brain.
The end.
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Date: 2011-01-02 03:18 pm (UTC)And OH! you make me laugh ;-)
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Date: 2011-01-02 03:40 pm (UTC)Strictly Ballroom is the first film where the audience in the cinema applauded at the end. Really.
Now I've got that voiceover in my head... 'As a matter of fact, I've got it now...'
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Date: 2011-01-02 03:47 pm (UTC)And yeah, lovely film, always leaves me with a smile.
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Date: 2011-01-02 05:36 pm (UTC)I agree that Eames started off crisper in accent, though I think that he was also playful in his first scene, just more focussed -- the job had only just started after all. His later broadening of accent I took as a reaction to the Anglophile structuredness of Arthur on the job, and Eames's taking the piss in response (were I to write fic on the topic, it would be based on the fact that Arthur's first words to Eames were
along the lines of 'Oh, English. How fascinating. I'm very fond of London.' to which Eames would doubtless have replied, 'I can see why you would be, but for me it's not a patch on Swindon ...')
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Date: 2011-01-02 05:34 pm (UTC)and yes, I enjoyed Inception. I was more blown away my the cinematography and concept designs, film shots, etc. then I was intigued by the characters, but I totally see why people glommed onto A/E. I remember saying to hubby as we left the theatre way back when the movie had been out a week or two, "bet we can search out at least a hundered A/E fics on the net right now" ;P
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Date: 2011-01-02 05:38 pm (UTC)I have comments on Legoland but it is stupid o'clock and I need to get up soon. If I forget tomorrow, they are mostly 'delightful!' and 'Lucky duck!'
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Date: 2011-01-02 06:08 pm (UTC)I was born in this country and I don't get it. :P
Then again, I watch the TV maybe once a month, and then only the ABC, so.
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Date: 2011-01-02 06:41 pm (UTC)Actually, not so much the last person in the Western, because I still haven't seen in.
*slinks away*
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Date: 2011-01-02 08:20 pm (UTC)I've actually had this argument a few times with some irl friends, and I do actually find it a very compelling argument, and I actually think it's probably the closest to Nolan's vision. But I refuse to believe it, because it annoys me. I'm contrary like that.
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Date: 2011-01-02 10:51 pm (UTC)I did wonder if it was the wife was alive and Cobb dead.
It's been so long I can't remember it clearly. Must see it again.
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Date: 2011-01-02 11:32 pm (UTC)I recorded SB because I couldn't be arsed to stay up and watch it. Might watch it today and dance around the house.
You can get it twirling, you can get it whirling, you can get it taking a bow. As a matter of fact, I've got it now ...
Inception was fun to watch (if a bit slow in parts) but the individual characters made so little impact on me that I can't recall enough of the dynamics to put your comments into any real context (although I suspect you may be right for that very reason). I remember being disappointed that Ariadne never really demonstrated the skills she was supposedly brought in for - instead she seemed to end up as Cobb's conscience/rational voice.
*sigh*
Stupid movie has eaten a large part of my flist, which is kind of sad for me (although they appear to be having a good time with it).
*smooches you*
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Date: 2011-01-02 11:48 pm (UTC)I was pretty sure it was all in his mind, not so much because of the totem at the end (which did in fact sound like it was slowing down right before the close- I've spun enough tops to recognise that) But because the children were exactly the same as in previous visits.
But I didn't enjoy the film too much, I think it was a good example of how the bells and whistles of cinematography help the atmosphere and the feeling that you are involved. I watched it on a small screen so missed that connection.
Something that did ring true, and may be a clue, was the discussion of how to tell if you are in a dream. That not knowing how you got there.
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Date: 2011-01-03 02:39 am (UTC)And Strictly Ballroom - Antonio Vargas and Paul Mercurio in the same film, dancing and you have a classic - and a shushu doing a MASSIVE fangirl squee...... The oh so incredibly accurate (and so hilariously funny)depiction of the mindset of some portions of the competitive dancing world in Australia is an added bonus. It really is some quality acting work on show there - some of our finest - and yes Mr B had it in one - Bill Hunter can ignore the orange because it matches his favourite beverage :)
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Date: 2011-01-03 06:11 am (UTC)And I <3 Strictly Ballroom - but that's no surprise is it :)
Glad you're all well, I'll pop my head in some time soon, I swear!
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Date: 2011-01-04 09:39 pm (UTC)I don't think I've ever seen it explained with the entire team as facets of his personality before though :O