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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2011-01-02 11:19 pm
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Finally saw Inception

Possibly the last person in the Western world to see this film ... But on a sweltering summer day, it was just the sort of thing that Mr B and I wanted to veg out in front of.

And ... I have a thought ...

That the whole thing is in Cobb's head and they're just all parts of his own mind. Whether or not there is any such thing as Extraction or Inception is open to debate -- he could have lost his wife in any manner. I do believe that he lost her, his guilt is the driving force for everything that follows, but I think that is the only real fact we can be certain of.

The team all function as facets of a personality -- competence, carefulness, charm, compassion ... And the Arthur - Eames dynamic (which I can see leading to A/E all you A/E folk) even has a level of internal irony that you would hope for in a proper grown-up (and which Cobb in the film rather lacks -- because he's not all of himself). That's why Ariadne is needed, because she is the younger, better Cobb, who remembers his life back when he had joy in it.

Does this make sense to anyone else? Or has the heat wholly melted my brain?


To finish the biggest film day in ages, we watched Strictly Ballroom, which may not be as hilarious to people who have never lived in Australia as it is to those of us who have (OH SO VERY!) and, observing the level of spray tan, I was moved to say to Mr B: 'How can he keep his face so straight when his whole body is so orange?'

Mr B looked at me and said: 'Because he's Bill Hunter, and right about now, he'd fancy a beer.'

(Yeah, you do need a high Oz-familiarity for that to be funny, too. But if you have it, it's a corker ;-))

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was! But when I had a flick on the internet after watching it, apparently this is not a common theory, which surprised me!

And OH! you make me laugh ;-)

[identity profile] snowandsunshine.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Apologies for butting in. Long time lurker and just saw Inception yesterday for the first time. I am so inclined to agree with you on the idea that it's all in Cobb's head. Most people seem to think every scene after Michael Caine appears is in Cobb's head

I've also heard that Michael Caine said in an interview that Cobb's totem does stop spinning at the end. Nolan also said that the children at the end were wearing different outfits than they were at the beginning - he seemed surprise people would think otherwise- and seemed to strongly hint that what we are seeing is reality, Cobb is reunited with his family.

Ignoring all this, I groaned when I heard Ellen Page's character was called Ariadne. Really, Christopher Nolan, really ?

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, Christopher Nolan and a happy ending? Pfft! ;-)

And yes, I sighed, too.

[identity profile] snowandsunshine.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Chris Nolan does like to make his characters suffer. He, and the angst factory that is Christian Bale, really lover their misery!

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Christian Bale lost all his happy at Agincourt. *Nods*

[identity profile] chantefable.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Christopher Nolan and a happy ending? *sigh*

Really, Mr Nolan is kind of a one trick pony: all his films are about a white shady man with trickster skills and a pretty young dead wife, and about his man pain.

All his protagonists are creating illusions to compensate for the fact that they lack confidence in their masculinity, and why do they lack it? Because their woman is dead. Just look at Batman, the Bale & Jackman magic show, and now Cobb. His narratives are rather predictable. :)

[identity profile] calanthe-fics.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps I'm giving Hollywood too much credit, but I tend to think that it was written in such a way that a number of avenues of possibility exist. I think it's fine if people want to pick one possibility and not want to explore any of the others. But what a shame for fandom if everyone felt the same!

I think that many fanfic-friendly entertainment productions take fandoms into account when vying for a place in the consumer marketplace. The reason Merlin fails for me as a fandom is because the canon slashiness is too pronounced - it's taking Merlin's pants down and offering his arsehole rather than showing us a bit of his ankle. Slashing stuff is about working your gut responses, not about hard cold fact. For me, Arthur is the key character in Inception. We know too much about Cobb, but Arthur's such a beautifully packaged creative concept, and I find it impossible to watch any scene he's in and take my eyes off him (edited for clarity). To tell the truth I could read Arthur/anyone slash, because he's got the layers. Eames is the icing on the cake, but only because Tom Hardy is a prick tease who likes to post half-naked pics and oil his tattoos, and fandom has enjoyed blurring the point where Eames stops and Hardy begins. Don't get me wrong - I have no issue with it, because fandom is about chucking the rules out of the window to provide the required fix (of in my case, cocksucking, in your case, cups of tea and flirtation!).

I don't care whether it's all in Cobb's head or not, and I suspect not many other people enjoying Inception fandom care either, which is probably why it hasn't popped up as a theme. Mr Cal, for the record, reached the same conculsion instantaneously (that it's all Cobb's dream), to which my response was 'yeah, but did you hear Arthur's voice?!!!'. Fandom ain't interested in Leo. Thank goodness for that!
Edited 2011-01-02 15:49 (UTC)

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought Arthur was fabulous. His relentless, unflappable competence was one of the great joys of the film. And as I emailed, I can see Eames just annoying him for the sheer joy of it, which naturally would lead to slashy wonder.

And yes, I quite agree that there is no need for a 'right' interpretation, because there are many possible ones, and fanfic can leave all of them behind and exist wholly on fanon, as Draco's well-worn leather trousers testify!

ETA: Cups of tea are DEEPLY EROTIC in some circles!
Edited 2011-01-02 15:54 (UTC)

[identity profile] calanthe-fics.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but fanon Draco's trousers are awful. Particularly when the leather becomes white, or worse yet, PVC....

And I can currently picture some Inception slash in which Saito performs a tea making ritual using Arthur's quavering stomach as a table ;)

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate to say it, but my mind went to similar place while I was typing that ...

[identity profile] calanthe-fics.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Then we either have to get Push to write it, or perhaps I can slip it in as a prompt on an anon kink meme thingumy, and you could churn it out - say on your birthday or something; not an important day or anything - and I would actually come along and squee whilst watching you put your money where your mouth is, and make tea sexy.

:D

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
OR -- and I know that this is a radical concept -- I could actually write you an entire birthday fic for once.

I tell myself that Little Red Courgette counts as yours, but really it's only because I am haunted by the slug-sex fic that has been stuck at 500 words for two years.

[identity profile] calanthe-fics.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
What is the problem with making me things, eh? Fics? Gloves? Maybe you could do a crossover of sorts involving ficcage and gloves. And tea....

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, at least I have one glove cuff done! And it's because I aim high for you!

Anyway, I wrote you 30,000 words on vegetable legislation. That must be worth a bit of delay on everything else!

[identity profile] calanthe-fics.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It was the best fic of the fest, and worth every word. I still love it to this day, and contrary to my suggestion, I have never forgotten it. I don't even think I deserve anything else, but it would be terribly unEames-ish of me if I didn't try.

[identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I love the fact you made me think of something funny to say about lettuces, I would never have imagined it possible!

Will Knit Faster! (But you may still have a delay in getting them as I am tempted to make us all big girl Cal-jnr hats ...)

[identity profile] chantefable.livejournal.com 2011-01-02 05:48 pm (UTC)(link)
*g* I like our theory better. *clings*