Good and bad news
Mar. 2nd, 2008 12:12 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Firstly, you folk are amazing. Thank you all very much for all the human support and cat love; I even managed to sleep for five-and-a-bit hours!
Two vet conversations today. The first one was to check she'd lived through the night. The night vet was a nice chick who confided that she'd nearly rung me to tell me it looked hopeless around 1am but had slapped Min back in the oxygen box and thought to wait ten minutes first. After ten minutes, Min was so much better that she settled down and had a good old sleep. The vet was astonished, and very glad she'd not 'woken me' (I didn't confess I stayed up till 6.30 so I could be sure of talking to her before she went, because I'm only comfortable looking that odd in front of J and you).
Then she popped Min back in her box and Min proceeded to eat up all her food and sit down and have a good groom. Said the vet: I have never seen another cat do that, ever.
Me: Oh Min loves food. When she stops eating, she won't be dying, she'll be dead.
Vet: Great cat, I can see why you guys like her so much! Anyway, I'm much more optimistic about her than I was at 1am. The medical specialist is in at 9am and he'll give you a call when he knows what's up.
The medical specialist just called. He said that she had had a bad attack of fighting for breath shortly after he'd come on duty, so he'd investigated her first and found numerous growths in her windpipe (I KNEW her lungs weren't full of fluid!). He'd scraped several back and collected tissue samples for path. She was actually responding quite well to the increased airway and the oxygen tube, though he was keeping her under some sedation. He said that he thought the most likely story was lymphoma of the windpipe.
"Ooh," I said, deflated.
"No, you see it sounds bad, but that's actually good!" he said. "We have a saying that if you have to have cancer, be sure to get lymphoma, because it responds better to treatment than anything else!"
"Oh," I said, more hopefully.
"So you may well end up with a cat on chemo, but that's not too expensive and it's eminently survivable. We have a Siamese in here at the moment who had it four years ago, and he's fine, except for his broken leg."
"Was that the cat that was yowling all last night?"
"Er, probably."
"So she'll have a voice, still?"
"Oh yes, though she seems very quiet."
"She is, until she wishes to announce to other cats they are about to die, then she's loud."
"She sounds like a real character."
"Easily the most interesting cat I have ever owned!"
At this point I realised I was doing what I do when I get run over and impressing upon the medical people that they want to go to extreme efforts to save this cat/person of great charm. So I stopped. The vet told me that the path would be back on Tuesday and that we would have a plan of action by then. I forgot to ask if we could visit.
Thank you all again for the good wishes and positive vibes, I am sure that knowing her importance in the universe is no small part of Min's resilience in the face of great adversity!
Now, off to research cat chemo!
Two vet conversations today. The first one was to check she'd lived through the night. The night vet was a nice chick who confided that she'd nearly rung me to tell me it looked hopeless around 1am but had slapped Min back in the oxygen box and thought to wait ten minutes first. After ten minutes, Min was so much better that she settled down and had a good old sleep. The vet was astonished, and very glad she'd not 'woken me' (I didn't confess I stayed up till 6.30 so I could be sure of talking to her before she went, because I'm only comfortable looking that odd in front of J and you).
Then she popped Min back in her box and Min proceeded to eat up all her food and sit down and have a good groom. Said the vet: I have never seen another cat do that, ever.
Me: Oh Min loves food. When she stops eating, she won't be dying, she'll be dead.
Vet: Great cat, I can see why you guys like her so much! Anyway, I'm much more optimistic about her than I was at 1am. The medical specialist is in at 9am and he'll give you a call when he knows what's up.
The medical specialist just called. He said that she had had a bad attack of fighting for breath shortly after he'd come on duty, so he'd investigated her first and found numerous growths in her windpipe (I KNEW her lungs weren't full of fluid!). He'd scraped several back and collected tissue samples for path. She was actually responding quite well to the increased airway and the oxygen tube, though he was keeping her under some sedation. He said that he thought the most likely story was lymphoma of the windpipe.
"Ooh," I said, deflated.
"No, you see it sounds bad, but that's actually good!" he said. "We have a saying that if you have to have cancer, be sure to get lymphoma, because it responds better to treatment than anything else!"
"Oh," I said, more hopefully.
"So you may well end up with a cat on chemo, but that's not too expensive and it's eminently survivable. We have a Siamese in here at the moment who had it four years ago, and he's fine, except for his broken leg."
"Was that the cat that was yowling all last night?"
"Er, probably."
"So she'll have a voice, still?"
"Oh yes, though she seems very quiet."
"She is, until she wishes to announce to other cats they are about to die, then she's loud."
"She sounds like a real character."
"Easily the most interesting cat I have ever owned!"
At this point I realised I was doing what I do when I get run over and impressing upon the medical people that they want to go to extreme efforts to save this cat/person of great charm. So I stopped. The vet told me that the path would be back on Tuesday and that we would have a plan of action by then. I forgot to ask if we could visit.
Thank you all again for the good wishes and positive vibes, I am sure that knowing her importance in the universe is no small part of Min's resilience in the face of great adversity!
Now, off to research cat chemo!
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Date: 2008-03-02 01:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-03-02 01:47 am (UTC)*hugs back!!*
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Date: 2008-03-02 02:03 am (UTC)Here's hoping she's better soon!
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Date: 2008-03-02 03:56 am (UTC)It will be a haul, but I am at least rationally optimistic today after last night's somewhat forlorn hoping.
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Date: 2008-03-02 02:13 am (UTC)I know next to nothing about cat chemo so I have no words of comfort to offer but I'll continue with the positive vibes and keep my fingers crossed for you guys.
Life's never just easy, is it?
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Date: 2008-03-02 04:02 am (UTC)Apparently 70% respond well and live another 6 months, of that, up to 40% go into remission and gain years. That latter figure is mostly comprised of cats that are negative for feline AIDS and feline leukaemia, and that are in otherwise good health. She is at the older end of things, but otherwise fits that profile entirely, even has all her own teeth in perfect working order. I tell you, these rats are good stuff when it comes to kitty health!
Thanks for the good thoughts, I am feeling a lot better that everyone loves their pets crazily.
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Date: 2008-03-02 04:02 am (UTC)Thanks, she can do with all the love that's spare.
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Date: 2008-03-02 03:18 am (UTC)Don't EVER feel weird for wanting to say goodbye to a pet, or for caring a lot. Cats are family, period. Cat persons and dog persons (and birds, etc. for that matter) who live with us aren't human, but they have a place and when they're gone, that place stays in our hearts and hurts us just as anyone else residing in our heart. The grieving process is just the same -- and every other person who's had a pet knows that.
So I've got my fingers crossed, and you have my sympathy. I hope you don't lose her for many years.
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Date: 2008-03-02 04:06 am (UTC)It was weird trying to cheer her up when she was in her little perspex box. She seemed very calm (and later had a long snooze in the box, so clearly found it to her taste), and I was outside with my fingers like the climactic scene of a boy in the bubble film. It was all very Made for TV ... But yes, we will be packed lunching it for the next few months to pay for the kitty, and that's fine.
Thanks for your good wishes, they definitely help me, and may well be helping her, too.
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Date: 2008-03-02 03:51 am (UTC)Yay! She made it! I mean I don't even like animals (as pets), but I wouldn't mind having a pet like Min!
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Date: 2008-03-02 03:55 am (UTC)You are not made of fail, you are made of kind! And it is appreciated. Still a long way to go, but getting through the night is a good first step, and 70% of cats respond well to the chemo, more if, like her, they are otherwise healthy.
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Date: 2008-03-02 07:26 am (UTC)Sorta O/T: So why do you have a dog in your default icon? *cocks head inquiringly*
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Date: 2008-03-02 07:40 am (UTC)This is one of my favourite small dogs from the period.
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Date: 2008-03-02 08:33 am (UTC)I am just hoping that specialist vet's optimism is well founded.
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Date: 2008-03-02 08:20 am (UTC)I dreamed last night that I got a package from you. It was Min in a crate! She was very small and angry. I put her in a cage (nothing I'd ever do in real life) and she ran back and forth. I think your card said she wanted to visit my cats.
Glad the vet thinks she's curable. A lot of diseases are different in cats than humans. I don't think treatment will be cheap, but I don't know anything about the cost. I do know radioactive iodine for my cat's thyroid condition was about $900.00 US for a one-time treatment. Yes, that's a lot of money, but it's four years later and I have a healthy cat.
OH, thanks for your very kind comment on my earlier post: sorry I haven't answered yet *embarassed*
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Date: 2008-03-02 08:31 am (UTC)That dream is hysterical! Min would be furious if I left her in a crate for a flight, though she found the car interesting last night (it was her first time!) She would eat your cats, though. All cats are for eating, with the grudging exception of soft grey kitty next door who is her ally in the war against Tigger the tabby over the back fence. The lesbians who own soft grey kitty are so nice to Min that I think she feels too guilty to try and eat their cat.
I do have a package for you, though. It's been sitting in the front room for three months, missing sundry event deadlines as I look for the one final thing I wanted to stuff into it. I actually thought I'd posted it one week, then realised I hadn't. I think the cat may sometimes be smarter than me.
My guess is that treatment won't be cheap, but I am hoping that it will be drawn out costs rather than a big single one. I know we're at up to $1500 for the last two days plus the boarding, and if the chemo is then a few hundred every week or two, that's a lot more manageable than several thousand in a one-off stint.
I may need to switch to cheaper cosmetics and resole my old shoes. It can be done!
Just saw mum on telly leading the '78ers at the Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras, I thought of how you'd laugh if you were here.
And yes, my flist is full of kind people, and kind people always understand the love of a good mad cat.
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Date: 2008-03-02 10:46 am (UTC)I like the lively dog theory
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Date: 2008-03-02 12:12 pm (UTC)It's a theory with a lot of evdence! Though in English art the dog can be replaced by the odd squirrel.
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Date: 2008-03-02 11:46 am (UTC)i'm glad you're feeling better and that min is such a fighter.
it's too late to be coherent (plus i'm worried about my own baby that's caught out in a late night storm), so i'll just pass on [*cuddles and pets*]
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Date: 2008-03-02 11:53 am (UTC)Come in, Sno's cat! Storms are not good for kitties!
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Date: 2008-03-04 01:56 pm (UTC)As we left she sat up and watched us go, with a look that may or may not have been slightly sorrowful. Or it could have been wind.
But yes, physically she is immensely better than Saturday night.
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Date: 2008-03-02 05:54 pm (UTC)*hugs you tight*
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Date: 2008-03-04 02:08 pm (UTC)She is VERY appealling. Well, she's a bit battered after all of her many fights with other cats, but she has lovely tortiseshell fur and is highly amusing. She thinks she is either a very large dog or else a human, and treats other animals accordingly. She has been tolerating the two smallest cats in the neighbourhood lately, which we thought could be a sign of her mellowing old age or illness and now appears to be all due to the near death. Still, she has defended one of them from the big mean cat who she hates in the past when she was well, so it's possible she has a heart of something other than purest amusing evil.
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Date: 2008-03-04 02:09 pm (UTC)No drinking (we'd not get up in the morning if we took to the drink) but lots of comfort eating. Feel rather ill after deciding on ice cream for dinner.
Cheers dears.
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