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I caught a news snippet while rushing to get dressed this morning. It was on the 10th anniversary of Wikipedia, and the journalist was interviewing a schoolboy who looked about 17. He told her that he used Wikipedia regularly and found it to be a good source. When the journalist asked him about the varying credibility and skill of Wikipedia contributors, he stared in wide-eyed horror.

After a moment, he replied, 'Well, I've only just found out about that. I thought that there was a central place it all came from where everything was checked! This is big news. I am going to have to think about this at length!'

Twelve hours later, I have nearly stopped giggling.

Date: 2011-01-17 10:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
Eeeeeheeeheeee heee oh bless.

Date: 2011-01-17 02:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
At least he's found out before he went to university ;-)

Date: 2011-01-17 10:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsquizzical.livejournal.com
ha! poor pet! his world just fell apart. he doesn't even know what to believe any more!

Date: 2011-01-17 11:23 am (UTC)
ext_14590: (Default)
From: [identity profile] meredyth-13.livejournal.com
You can believe everything on the internet, just don't believe a word those pesky reporters tell you!

hehehe

Date: 2011-01-17 12:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-17 02:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-01-17 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Although, suddenly, the fact that Jeff Goldblum appears to never actually die despite frequent reports of same makes a lot more sense!

Date: 2011-01-17 10:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha! Big news! *snorfles*8

Date: 2011-01-17 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I have spent all day delighted at the giggling fit his teachers will have at this discovery.

Date: 2011-01-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] themostepotente.livejournal.com
*snatches away that superfluous 8*

Date: 2011-01-17 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnatart.livejournal.com
I would say I'm surprised but I'm not. I used to edit university articles and thesis papers that would cite Wiki. I wish I were kidding.

Date: 2011-01-17 12:50 pm (UTC)
drgaellon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drgaellon
Our University academic code forbids Wikipedia as a source. (Hasn't stopped me from using it for the basics, though.)

Date: 2011-01-17 02:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
If you already know the answer, it can be all right as an aide memoire, and some pages link to good sites and are well resourced, but you need to know enough about a topic before you go there to know whether or not you are going somewhere useful or not. There should be a test to determine who can and can't be trusted to read Wiki (as well as edit it ;-)).

Date: 2011-01-17 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnatart.livejournal.com
Yeah I don't know if this Uni has or not, but I know if I were a professor I'd state it in the syllabus that anyone citing Wiki automatically fails.

Date: 2011-01-17 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
If they were on media studies, sociology, or open source networks, maybe ... but otherwise, ARGH!

Date: 2011-01-17 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnatart.livejournal.com
They weren't =D hahahahaha.

I love our shared outrage.

Date: 2011-01-17 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterthunder.livejournal.com
Definitely seen that one. It's amazing, and really sad when you consider that 95% of the time, you can look up Wikipedia's citations and go straight to a legitimate source.

Date: 2011-01-17 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cinnatart.livejournal.com
THIS. I would hand them back and tell them I'd read it when they followed/used/cited the proper sources at the bottom of Wiki. It's amazing how many of them DON'T REALISE that they're there.

Date: 2011-01-17 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] knic26.livejournal.com
Oh dear...

I used to tell my students that they could *start* with wiki, but just as a place to find basic info and branch out from there. If I ever had someone that sited wiki, I wouldn't accept the work.

Date: 2011-01-17 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I imagine his teachers have had that same conversation, but he's just assumed they were big meanies ;-)

Date: 2011-01-17 11:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-mariane.livejournal.com
The upside of this situation is that teachers will never lack for work :D

Date: 2011-01-17 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Nor editors ;-)

Date: 2011-01-17 11:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] meredyth-13.livejournal.com
ROFLMAO

*headdesk*

ROFLMAO

*headdesk*


... you get the picture. :D

Date: 2011-01-17 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Terrifyingly, Australia has one of the better-rated education systems in the Western world ...

Date: 2011-01-17 12:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oncelikeshari.livejournal.com
He's run to his friends to tell them that a manifold isn't a bloke who does origami! *LOL*

Date: 2011-01-17 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Bwahahaahahahahaha!

Date: 2011-01-17 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lil-shepherd.livejournal.com
[This [child] needs additional citations for verification.]

Date: 2011-01-17 12:48 pm (UTC)
drgaellon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drgaellon
Ha! Well played!

Date: 2011-01-17 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I knew I should have hit record ...

Date: 2011-01-17 12:47 pm (UTC)
drgaellon: (Default)
From: [personal profile] drgaellon
The funniest part (which clearly comes across in your narration) is the wide-eyed incredulity.

Date: 2011-01-17 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I did feel a bit sorry for him, it was clearly quite the shock!

Date: 2011-01-17 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassy-cissa.livejournal.com
WHA??????

Wikipedia isn't a reliable source?? Oh tell me it's not true???

lolololol

Have to love the young...and worry for the future.

Date: 2011-01-17 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I had a journo who pointed out a Wiki page stating that Egyptian women painted their breasts with liquid gold to prove that she was right and I was wrong. I took it graciously from her, and then reminded her that gold melts at nearly 1000 degrees Celcius. She took the sheet of paper back, tore it up and tossed it in the recycling, declaring, 'Let us never speak of this again.'

Date: 2011-01-17 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sassy-cissa.livejournal.com
*winces at the mere thought*

That would certainly be beauty at any cost!

Yipes. *shakes head*

Date: 2011-01-17 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teganscrush.livejournal.com
It all spits out of a biiig computer somewhere and the information is 1000% correct with impeccable sources. :D

His reaction is awesome!

Date: 2011-01-17 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enchanted-jae.livejournal.com
*face palms on behalf of humanity*

Date: 2011-01-17 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] embolinaoz.livejournal.com

Well at least he's thinking now! :)

Date: 2011-01-17 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nenne.livejournal.com
I think such ignorance is a tiny bit adorable. To be so young and naive. :)

Date: 2011-01-17 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] why-am-i.livejournal.com
Teehehehehe! Trufax, Wikipedia has them.

My friend does Calisthenics, and was amused to discover, according to Wikipedia, that she was the founder of the entire sport.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:45 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Well while a lot of people are chortling and sniggering here I think you need to think about this. It really depends on what you are researching. For example I had to do a uni assignment on the on-line response to the release of Halo 3. It was required that I use the Halo 3 wiki and the online comments from wikipedia to justify my comments about the online response. So I had to use wikipediea and comment on it.

There are also many other wiki's that are not wikipedeia that are set up for companies and for particular programs, events, situation etc where the information that they use is more up to date than books are because they change so often and where the wiki is more useful as a source than anything else.

So while I agree that wikipedia should not be used as a sole source and should not be used all the time there is a time and a place for it and sometimes wikipedia is the best place for information. It depends on what you are researching.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinofbeans.livejournal.com
Sorry that was not meant to be anonymous.

Date: 2011-01-18 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Oops! Replied to your accidental anon ...

Date: 2011-01-18 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
You make a good point that there are some things Wiki does do well. Their popular culture pages are at once the most likely to be up to date and comprehensive and the most likely to contain hoax information or be opinionated, though. If it is used as a first point of information gathering, it can be great, but if people stop there, we end up with the regularly dead Jeff Goldblum syndrome.

Other Wikis that are not run from Wikipedia are a different beast and there are several quite good ones, I agree with you there.

Date: 2011-01-18 07:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wivern.livejournal.com
We're doomed! *g*

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