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Jun. 19th, 2010 02:38 am
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I accidentally attended a book sale today, but was very restrained and only purchased language books that I actually need for my appalling French and Italian, and a couple of history tomes, which are [Poll #1580212]And lil, thank you for your comment! I had to delete and start again because the poll was not working for me, hope it does this time!

Date: 2010-06-18 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] okydoky.livejournal.com
I vote yes, because one day, I will have a copy too :) and I can't be the only person I know to own one!

Date: 2010-06-19 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I have owned one in the past, but could not schlep it across continents, so it now lives with my nice cousin :-)

Date: 2010-06-20 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthraxia.livejournal.com
Buy it. I inherited my mother's copy - it may be 35 years old and thus lacking lots of new words (like microwave) but it's still fabulous to have around. Not only for the lit. cred.
From: [identity profile] schemingreader.livejournal.com
We have that one-volume OED. It is the best thing in the entire world. I think that price is too high though. I will ask my husband how much he paid. I believe he got it by joining a book club. (Yes, the fact that he owned an OED was a contributing factor in our decision to marry...)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It happens!

And your husband is classy, good choice! I think that you are right. Up to $300 it would be no question, to $500, I would hesitate, but still probably go there, but at nearly $800 ... Yeah.

Date: 2010-06-18 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leochi.livejournal.com
One never can have enough dictionaries or encyclopedias. ;)

Date: 2010-06-19 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I have four dictionaries in English already ... three of them written within the last century, one within the last decade :-) I should be sensible and hold off.

Date: 2010-06-19 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leochi.livejournal.com
*grins* I definitely beat you. ;D (But I've got a valid excuse, I've studied translation "centuries" ago.)

Date: 2010-06-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I have far more French and Italian dictionaries, for similar reasons ;-)

Date: 2010-06-19 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leochi.livejournal.com
Vive la France and Viva Italia! ;D Und natürlich auch Es lebe Österreich, Deutschland und die Schweiz. ;DDD

Date: 2010-06-18 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nuclearsugars.livejournal.com
Welllll, I have a subscription to the OED through my uni if you don't end up purchasing it. *shifty eyes*

Date: 2010-06-19 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
You are quite the love!

Date: 2010-06-18 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Whether you buy it or not, you can always check this out: goldendict English (http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5205813/Goldendict_dictionary_interface_and_english_dictionaries)

Date: 2010-06-19 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Oh you shameless enabler ;-)

Date: 2010-06-18 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inamac.livejournal.com
My local library allows users to log on to their subscription copy using their library ID - you might try that as a first option before heading for the bookshop.

ETA That's log in to the OED from my home computer - I don't have to go to the library.
Edited Date: 2010-06-18 08:39 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-19 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I should see if I have access through the uni I sometimes teach at ... but I am there so rarely these days, I keep forgetting I can still wrangle the odd academic privilege!

Date: 2010-06-18 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowclub.livejournal.com
Haha, I was confused by the date on this entry as you are writing this entry from the future (which admittedly makes sense with the time different, but I am rather tired today...).

That is a lot of money for the dictionary, but if it's something that'll make you happy and be useful you should get it... Or just continue to depend on the internet:)

Date: 2010-06-19 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
My friend in North Carolina often emails me asking for details of tomorrow, and refers to me as her friend from the future ;-)

Date: 2010-06-18 07:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alicambs.livejournal.com
How do you 'accidently' attend a book sale? :-)

Date: 2010-06-18 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shu-shu-sleeps.livejournal.com
Happens all the time, book sellers are notoriously dangerous types who set out to trap the unwary buyer into spending lots of money on important things that spread literacy and good grammar around the world. I'm sure there's a rabid politician out there something who thinks it should be stopped:)

Date: 2010-06-18 10:48 pm (UTC)
ext_3954: (smile)
From: [identity profile] alicambs.livejournal.com
I'll remember that for the next time that hubby whinges when I head for a book shop. :-)

Date: 2010-06-20 01:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anthraxia.livejournal.com
I have this theory that bibliophiles are implanted with some kind of magnetic device in early childhood that bookshops are able to use to pull us into the store. It's the only way I can explain the involuntary change in direction when I try to walk past a bookshop.

Date: 2010-06-19 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It was up the road from the wool sale ;-)


(In truth, I was walking back from the knitting shop when I saw a sign saying 'member only sale', at which point, I realised I was in fact a member of that bookshop!)

Date: 2010-06-18 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] siria.livejournal.com
Oh god, I'm such a cheat. First I voted yes, because DICTIONARIES are obviously the best thing since, since, since something very, very fabulous!!

But then I figured that really, you could buy a whole lot of different dictionaries in all sorts of languages for that kind of money, and so I'm torn. SORRY but you don't want my advice anyway, because I'm horrid with money to begin with - I spend it all on silly things, like coffee, books, dentists and food and then wonder where it went. Much better to buy something you'll genuinely love. Like, that fantastic Dictionary (when it comes to English dictionaries, I only have a couple of different one-volume New Oxford dictionaries, nothing spectacular - BUT MY ENGLISH COULD BE BETTER, so this is totally an argument in favour of buying MORE dictionaries, come to think of it, damnit) or a pony.

Mind you, that whole last sentence was a good demonstration of 'reasons to buy better dictionaries'. :)

Date: 2010-06-18 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chantefable.livejournal.com
I vote yes because I honestly believe it will make you happy. Also, I would do the same in your place. It's a book sale. How can anyone expect sanity and restraint when we are talking about a book sale? I still have a stack of unread, crispy new books from the last sale I happened to attend... Basically, if the book!purchase does not leave you & your loved ones hungry and destitute for the next month, then you can afford it. It's right there in The Complete Idiot's Guide to Attending Book Sales and Living Happily Ever After.

Date: 2010-06-18 09:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goddessriss.livejournal.com
I know you're knitting.

I find dictionaries endlessly fascinating. I recently bought a nice, compact one for my 13 year old niece who, I'm sure, thinks her biro comes with a built-in spell-checker. She may or may not use it, but at least she has it. Lord knows, she needs it! Youth of today, eh?

My own copy of the compact OED is fairly old and was purchased from a the local hospice charity shop for a fiver (in the days before they got wise to the book collecting market. I still remember finding those hardback Chalet School books for 75p each!). I love it.

Hmm.

Date: 2010-06-18 09:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wemyss.livejournal.com
I still say, Buy it, but, then, I would do, wouldn’t I. What’s a 1st edition of Dr Johnson’s Dictionary selling at these days, £400 or so?

Date: 2010-06-18 10:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shu-shu-sleeps.livejournal.com
Even though I chose to make a comment on the state of the world in this poll (there was no option that said of course you should get it and don't forget to claim it as a tax deduction!), I think you should get it - after all, its the OED! I think it belongs on your book shelf or I could look after it for you (and congratulations on being so restrained with your other purchases), and if you really need a reason - well if you had a copy then I could come visit it :) because frankly the Macquarie is driving me NUTS! And reading through this reply you can see how badly I need the guidance of the OED!

Date: 2010-06-18 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntpurl.livejournal.com
You make your living and derive much of your pleasure in life from words, and you're asking whether you should spend money on something that is so eminently worth it? Woman, PLEASE.

Date: 2010-06-19 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
But that amount of money is also four or five courses of Italian depending on where I study! Or about 40 novels! And I do own several other dictionaries ... I should hold off until I have a larger house. (And then buy the big version ;-))

Date: 2010-06-19 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] auntpurl.livejournal.com
Oh well, sure, fair enough. I was just enabling you, really. :D

Date: 2010-06-18 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brissygirl.livejournal.com
Almost $800 for a book is pretty steep! Even if you can claim it on your tax or get some money back or whatever. Me, I still have my dictionary and thesaurus that I had for school. I don't use them, they just sit on the shelf gathering dust.

If you buy it I'm sure you'll find somewhere to put it even if it's on the floor besides your bed. :D

If the book is 'compact' why the hell is it $795? *shakes head in dismay*

Date: 2010-06-19 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It's FULL of information! And it's compact is not very compact, about 1.5 reams of A3 paper IIRC. However, you're right. While I have the money to throw around, it would be better spent on savings ;-)

And I already have four English dictionaries (well, one complete Macquarie, which is Australian I suppose), plus big Italian and French ones, and small Italian, French, Latin, Welsh, Old English, Anglo Saxon, Estonian, Gaelic and Spanish ones. I should probably spend the money on Italian courses instead!

Date: 2010-06-19 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maevemist.livejournal.com
I said no it is far to much money but you know what? I really mean... Go now before you regret it!

Date: 2010-06-19 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It IS too much money, though. $300 I would have bought it in a flash!

Date: 2010-06-19 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mabonwitch.livejournal.com
Clearly you should own this dictionary! However, I think instead of getting it at the book sale, you should use your wily international travel network to get it from the U.K. to you. Because, really, what use is an international network of slahsers if they can't occasionally come through with a dictionary?

Date: 2010-06-19 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It's SO heavy, it would take up a sizable amount of luggage space. But you are right, I should at least consider the whole trek back from UK with one possibility. Alas, it involves luring people here so they can have it in their less-full outward bound luggage, and no bastard ever comes to visit me!

Date: 2010-06-19 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorafin.livejournal.com
Now that's a neat thing to possess. I had no idea that such a dictionary existed in English. I wish it was (were?) possible to browse some pages online, just to have an idea of how long I'll be able to resist its lure. :/

Date: 2010-06-19 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
It's basically nine pages of the original, squished and tiled onto one large page (pretty much A3 sized).

I nearly bought one when I first moved to Aus, but I was not staying. It was only $200, damnation! Now I am wondering if I perhaps should not buy the CD-ROM version as it will take up less space and is cheaper ...

Date: 2010-06-19 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorafin.livejournal.com
I'm a bit old-fashioned. I don't like CD-ROMs. Nothing will ever replace for me the pleasure of browsing through the pages of a book. No hard disk crashing, no windows freezing.. Just plain old paper and leather... Yummy. :)

Still, I hadn't looked properly at the price it was sold for, which is indeed insane. You can buy it new for much less than that on Amazon for instance.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0198612583/

And it looks like at first view that the shipping costs aren't that outrageous either.

Date: 2010-06-20 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glorafin.livejournal.com
And it looks like at first view that the shipping costs aren't that outrageous either.

Jesus.... I really need that dictionary. :/

Date: 2010-06-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-tartlet.livejournal.com
I just ticked the least helpful combination of boxes imaginable, hurrah! It will make you happy, but where would you put it? Perhaps you could keep it on the other side of your bed, and make Mr B sleep on the couch? The OED probably snores less...

Date: 2010-06-19 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
YUMMY ICON!

And why are you not in bed, young lady?

I'm just home from Newcastle *Snore!*

Yeah, I am thinking that I should hold out until I live in a house that will actually fit it. As things are, all my oversized books shelves are crowded beyond sanity. And it would be madness to own it and not have it kept somewhere accessible ...

Date: 2010-06-19 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-tartlet.livejournal.com
This is my Brammers icon, and I am not in bed because I fell asleep on the couch earlier and am not in the least bit tired now. I will regret it bitterly when SG gets up at 6am.
And while we're on the topic of language books, if you happen across an English/Welsh Welsh/English dictionary, or another Welsh language book that would be useful for someone learning the rudiments of the language, could you nab them for me (I will repay you in money or macaroons, your choice)? They are astonishingly (actually, it's not that astonishing, is it?) difficult to find down here.
Edited Date: 2010-06-19 04:59 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-19 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I can lend you mine! I also have Middle Welsh (don't ask) if you're keen!

Date: 2010-06-19 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] treacle-tartlet.livejournal.com
I think I'll start with modern Welsh, because I have a friend who speaks it and who can therefore help me with pronunciation! It would be most excellent if I could borrow yours, my dear (I will hide them from the depredations of SG, who is going through an unfortunate 'scribbling in books with crayons' phase D:)
And in the interests of showing off more of the icons I have recently wasted an appalling amount of time collecting, here is Simon Amstell in a bunny suit.

Date: 2010-06-19 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] uminohikari.livejournal.com
Clearly, the solution is to lure a friend from the UK to visit you and bring one.

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