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http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/books/bisexual-romance-heroes-have-even-snagged-harry-potter-20131107-2x4ka.html

Everything you need to know is in the meta-text.

No word-update today, because I am in the middle of a thing but have to go to bed, so it can all come together to be tomorrow's total and make it look as though I had a very diligent Saturday!

Date: 2013-11-08 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] connorblond.livejournal.com
So Christian Grey is the "epitome of the alpha male"?????

*goes to bang head against a hard surface*

Date: 2013-11-08 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Drugs. The only possible explanation is drugs.

Date: 2013-11-08 02:28 pm (UTC)
ext_289215: (A:TLA Sokka OMFG)
From: [identity profile] momebie.livejournal.com
The gay relationships depicted in fan fiction often mirror heterosexual relationships and sexuality - and I think the fact that it's written predominantly by and for women bears out the idea that it's a way of exploring heterosexuality outside of the heterosexual gender construct. This often results in a more feminised male character that really appeals to me.

On one hand, yes, gay relationships in fanfiction are largely written by women who I believe we can say are mainly straight and cis-gendered, just based on numbers. Because of this, they're not likely to reflect a genuine homosexual male experience.

Oh the other hand, as long as you write your characters as people and not tropes it will read as genuine regardless. On the other other hand, writing gay fanfiction seems like a pretty bad way to explore heterosexuality and I'm hoping that's just a typo. On the other other other hand, I get really annoyed when people talk about men being 'feminized' in fanfiction because it feeds into the stereotype that women lack the mental acuity to write men because we somehow don't understand masculinity on a level deeper than the lust in our loins, even though men have been writing women since the dawn of time and no one complains when THEY do it. I cannot tell you how many times I've heard someone refer to a male characters weak simply because they broke down under extreme duress. SIRIUS BLACK WAS IN THE WORST PRISON EVER FOR TWELVE FUCKING YEARS AND IF YOU DON'T THINK BEING REUNITED WITH HIS BEST FRIEND, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE FUCKING, WOULDN'T OVERWHELM HIM, THEN I'M NOT SURE YOU KNOW HOW PEOPLE WORK. Like, I've seen men cry. With my own eyes even! For many different reasons! That is not a feminine trait!

And even if it WAS a feminine trait, fuck you, I would personally really appreciate more bisexual representation that didn't demonize me as greedy or unable to make up my mind, and men dressing like women is hot.

/kicks away soap box.

Um...sorry about that.

Date: 2013-11-08 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I love you. *ENORMOUS HUGS!!!* Must go to bed now, but yes, yes, and good god in heaven and all his tiny bunnies, yes.

Date: 2013-11-08 10:34 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-11-08 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestlyn.livejournal.com
I'm one of those who don't care for 'feminized' Harry Potter men. Not because I have an issue with effeminate men, but because I prefer my characters to be reflective of the canon characters and not wildly ooc. No matter how you cut it, I just don't see Draco as effeminate in canon. He's arrogant and rather fussy, which would probably translate more into the metrosexual realm in the muggle world, but maybe not. He has never struck me as a diva or queen in canon and that's my issue with the whole thing. Obviously he was driven to tears in the bathroom scene, but that never struck me as at all feminized. Crying is not feminized to my way of thinking.

Date: 2013-11-09 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Could not agree with you more on the bathroom scene. Must go off and potter (no pun intended) on the idea of Draco as metrosexual. Offhand I would have said he was just more Victorian, but I am tending more to your view on thinking …

Date: 2013-11-08 03:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] who_la_hoop
What an extremely muddled article. I am not sure what point it's try to make! Am not surprised to hear that the author of Untamed is into fanfic though, I've been meaning to check the book out for a while.

Date: 2013-11-09 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I'm glad it's completely wacky to others: I was worried I was having a senior moment when I read it last night, but it's still bananas this morning.

Let me know what it's like!

Date: 2013-11-08 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pionie.livejournal.com
I'll just say I like the image of the heroine slowly peeling a Dracoesque man out of his Regency layers, and then leave the rest of the article at that ;)

Date: 2013-11-09 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
That was the part I thought was interesting, too. More layers! less laziness!

Date: 2013-11-08 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shiv5468.livejournal.com
And Heyer was there first with the cross dressing anyway

Date: 2013-11-09 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
I KNOW! Though a complete lack of research is almost de rigueur for young journos these days.

Date: 2013-11-09 10:06 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] germankitty
That was my first thought, too! Actually, it's one of my favorite Heyer books ... and it's clearly been too long since I've read it last, because for the life of me I can't remember the title!

(Even though it panders to other stereotypes because Pru is tall and ... not delicate .. for a Regency woman, and Robin is short and somewhat dainty for a Regency man ... but that's another rant. :P)

Date: 2013-11-09 11:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] germankitty
Well, duh! *slaps forehead* Thanks!

Date: 2013-11-09 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geoviki.livejournal.com
...the fact that it's written predominantly by and for women bears out the idea that it's a way of exploring heterosexuality...

Big-ass assumption failure #1: all fan-fiction-writing women are heterosexual.

Someone is wrong on the internet!

Date: 2013-11-09 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blamebrampton.livejournal.com
Can't reply, ROTFLing!

Oh god, yes. I thank the stars for my flist because you're all as right as that article is wrong.

Date: 2013-11-09 03:12 am (UTC)
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Whaaaa??? I felt all muddled after reading that. I didn't understand it at all. Thank you, LJ commenters for helping me see that it made no sense at all, so it's (mostly) not my broken brain.

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