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blamebrampton ([personal profile] blamebrampton) wrote2009-06-12 07:05 pm

Hey, Americans ...

Do you ever use forms of cliché other than plain old cliché? Such as clichéd or clichés? I see it used in a manner that I would consider wrong so often that I am wondering if it is one of those wacky idioms that English develops up all around the world. Or it could just be young people today with their emo music and Twittering ...

[identity profile] shiv5468.livejournal.com 2009-06-12 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't accept webster as authoritative as it is foreign. And the oxford citation of gotten as non-standard means wrong. Wrong or geordie and i'm not a geordie. And i think brammers was refering to the deplorable habit of not putting the d on the adjectival form not suggesting cliched was wrong. On the contrary.

[identity profile] sesheta-66.livejournal.com 2009-06-15 05:15 am (UTC)(link)
As Canadians, we tend to side with the British on spelling/grammar most times, but I'd never heard 'gotten' as being wrong before the HP fandom. Half my family is Scottish, and between my uncle and my father, I would have expected them to point it out to me while I was growing up, had they thought it was wrong. Both were always particular about language. Though I suppose it's possible they never heard me use it.

I think of 'gotten' as similar to 'given'. It's always been a part of my vocabulary, and it never struck me as incorrect in its form.

Ah, fandom. A great place to learn about language variances. :)