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[livejournal.com profile] frantic_mice  pushed me in the direction of [livejournal.com profile] fanficrants  (which I can see lasting another week on my watch list, if that). One of the more interesting of the many rants was from someone who, in essence, said 'Look, we live in a globalised age, is it really the case that reading American spellings in a fic set in the UK and vice-versa is worth making that much of a fuss about?'

And I have to agree. I can easily overlook gotten and alright if  no one over the age of 20 cries and if people only talk about their deepest feelings when they are in extremis. But for some, including a long list of commenters, there are certain Americanisms that are like a dictionary to the 43rd President of the USA and have them running at first sight.

I can somewhat sympathise, because I can find it very hard to read when characters start acting American, talking at great length about their emotions and so on. While I adore my American friends, my closest ones know that they will receive one brief hug on meeting and departure, and I will probably never tell them any of my deepest feelings. Which is not because I don't love them, but because deepest feelings are only for personal perusal so that no innocent souls will become aware of the full extent of my inner lunacy.

But for spelling and so on ... well, I regularly read books and magazines published in America and sometimes set in the UK or elsewhere in the English speaking world, and I cope with them. In fact, the YA novel I just finished changed spellings depending on whether scenes were set in New York or Sydney and it read as very very odd indeed (though it's a good novel). Dealing with such spelling anomalies is commonplace: most of you do the same.

I do like a good Britpick for things like truck/lorry, stall/cubicle, Christmas eggnog/three bottles of decent whisky and hiding in the stables, and were I writing fic set in the US, I would make certain that my characters said Dude and asked for the check. However, my authorial voice would still sound like me, which I believe is appropriate. Wodehouse and Conan Doyle both have long sections of novels (Psmith, Journalist and The Valley of Fear respectively) set in the US where they follow this rule, and these were great successes on both sides of the Atlantic.

All of which is my lengthy way of saying, I can cope perfectly well if you're an American and you write alright, color and aluminum. But if you could hold off on having the lads say 'I love you so much, sweetie, that sometimes I just want to cry'*, I would take it as a personal favour.
 

Finally, HAPPY BIRTHDAY [personal profile] suonguyen !


*If you have actually written a fic that contains this line, obviously it worked well in the incredibly clever context you created for it.

Date: 2009-01-17 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frantic-mice.livejournal.com
The voice of calm and reason. :)))))))))))))

Yeah. I totes understand. I just don't liek the way som people make others feel about their lackage of Britness in spellage. It's the same thing with Canon peeps, and hao they make others who don't conform to what THEY think canon is ===> make others feel their fanfiction is inferior. I hate the thought of som1 having to deal not only with finding their writin' voice but also have that voice inside their heads saying "You are not good enuf because of X. Look hao much X is hated."

Slang has its place. That's liek SUPER OBV. but yeah. It's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO great that you're that way, that eager to learn, that open to suggestions, that secure about what critique ull get. But baby newby fanwriters? You teach peeps by encouraging them. Not by pounding them into dust.
Edited Date: 2009-01-17 05:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-17 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romaine24.livejournal.com
LOL, Micie, when I was newby, I got slammed good and hard (or is that bad and hard), and was frozen for a while. It wasn't over Britpicking, but grammar and content. I was taken to [livejournal.com profile] deleterius and [livejournal.com profile] weepingcock with my first story and then there the random snarky reviews. Most reviews were pretty cool though.

I'm not saying I had it worse than others, or that I'm more secure, what I'm saying is that if the writing will is there, you'll say "fuck it" and write and learn as you go along.

Here's what I finally wrote to get myself going again.
http://community.livejournal.com/harrydraco/3808950.html

Enjoy and buy your friends chocolate. :)
Edited Date: 2009-01-17 06:06 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-01-17 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frantic-mice.livejournal.com
Yeah. Which is why I dunt like to see people slammed good and hard anywhere that is NOT deletrius & weepingcock. You expect no better from those places. It's liek som peeps feel like THEIR cause of ranting and slamming peeps down is worthier than others or somfin. It's not. IMO.

I AM sry that happened to you thou. :((((((((((((( *pets Roma*

I'm not saying peeps have to be OKAYNESS with American spelling & American culture and whatever. It's totes fine to be bothered, I just. No Che, you knoe? I'm saying don't make peeps feel so terrible about it.

If I had kiddies I wouldn't want them to be taught by teachers that pointed out their mistakes in exquisite detail and mocked them for their flaws. I dunt like it done to my friends either. *pouts*

Date: 2009-01-17 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frantic-mice.livejournal.com
OMG!!!I'M READING UR STORY AND IT'S SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNIEH!!!YAY!! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

*twirls*

Somfin ELSE!! to be happyness about today. ♥

Date: 2009-01-17 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] romaine24.livejournal.com
I just read it and laughed at the word "shite"! I've stopped using it, but, this is a funny one. Some brits say that is what they say and others say never.

Glad you liked it! *twirls you*

Date: 2009-01-17 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frantic-mice.livejournal.com
I did. :)))))))))))) I love it. It's soooooooooooo funnieh and harmlessly snarky and META & crack and just goodness.

It rly worked liek chocolate 4 my rantypantness. ♥

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